wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member Topic Starter
8 years ago

If a players hair is long enough that it reaches the jersey, it's part of the uniform and can be used to pull the player down, therefore it's up to the player to keep their hair short.

When you're chasing a ballcarrier with other 200-300lb athletes pushing and shoving you around it is very possible to inadvertently grab someone's hoodie and yank them to the ground. It's not that hard to understand the concept at all and it's obviously a very valid rule to help with player safety.

We need to understand that these are human beings, not machines and just because there is a rule preventing horse collar tackling doesn't mean it will never happen unintentionally.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Of course there is inadvertent tackles. Or td saving tackles. The player who puts the hoodie on know what might happen. Sorry I didn't read the deadlock rules. I heard the tv talking heads proclaim players can grab hair. I feel the same way about the hair as I do the hoodie. Wear it at your own peril.
UserPostedImage
PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago

Of course there is inadvertent tackles. Or td saving tackles. The player who puts the hoodie on know what might happen. Sorry I didn't read the deadlock rules. I heard the tv talking heads proclaim players can grab hair. I feel the same way about the hair as I do the hoodie. Wear it at your own peril.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Dreadlocks and long hair are and have been open game. Best example I can remember was Polamalu


Hoodies would have been treated the same way, it would have been legal to grab and tackle by.

The big reason this needed to be addressed is because of the change to the Horsecollar tackle rule for 2016. Which adds the name plate area of the jersey. last year and before if the defender grabbed the jersey without getting inside the collar area it wasn't a horsecollar. It would have resulted in cases where what would have been a horse collar tackle ended up being a hoodie tackle and also cases where what would have been legal tackles be coming hoodie tackles. The rules would have to either make them all legal or all illegal, otherwise officials would have to try and determine intent. This way, there is no question.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member Topic Starter
8 years ago

Dreadlocks and long hair are and have been open game. Best example I can remember was Polamalu



Hoodies would have been treated the same way, it would have been legal to grab and tackle by.

The big reason this needed to be addressed is because of the change to the Horsecollar tackle rule for 2016. Which adds the name plate area of the jersey. last year and before if the defender grabbed the jersey without getting inside the collar area it wasn't a horsecollar. It would have resulted in cases where what would have been a horse collar tackle ended up being a hoodie tackle and also cases where what would have been legal tackles be coming hoodie tackles. The rules would have to either make them all legal or all illegal, otherwise officials would have to try and determine intent. This way, there is no question.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



I understand. My comment remains the same. Players know the risk. If they give the defense an extra advantage it's their own fault. No need for extra rules because of stupidity.

UserPostedImage
PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago
There were really three choices, go counter to player safety which the NFL can't afford to do in this day or disadvantage defenses even more. Or just don't allow them which doesn't disadvantage anyone and doesn't make anything more dangerous.

It was a no brainer decision.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Zero2Cool
8 years ago

Of course there is inadvertent tackles. Or td saving tackles. The player who puts the hoodie on know what might happen. Sorry I didn't read the deadlock rules. I heard the tv talking heads proclaim players can grab hair. I feel the same way about the hair as I do the hoodie. Wear it at your own peril.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I understand what you're saying by too many rules, you know I hate rules in general, but this one I have to agree with. Yes, players should know the risk, but can't we say the same about concussions and head injuries? Sometimes when you're in your early 20's you feel you will live forever and that makes you commit to poor decisions.

Honestly, I think jewelry should be disallowed. I see some of these guys wearing huge crosses around their neck or big diamond earrings and I just can't help think how stupid they are for it. Aside from the financial loss if/when it falls out on to the field that could do some serious damage to you if you get hit just right.
UserPostedImage
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member Topic Starter
8 years ago

I understand what you're saying by too many rules, you know I hate rules in general, but this one I have to agree with. Yes, players should know the risk, but can't we say the same about concussions and head injuries? Sometimes when you're in your early 20's you feel you will live forever and that makes you commit to poor decisions.

Honestly, I think jewelry should be disallowed. I see some of these guys wearing huge crosses around their neck or big diamond earrings and I just can't help think how stupid they are for it. Aside from the financial loss if/when it falls out on to the field that could do some serious damage to you if you get hit just right.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




Yeah the jewelry can be an issue. A few years ago I heard a player (could have been a MLB player.) talk about his jewelry. He had pieces that he only wore during the game. Other pieces he wore during practice and others he wore when out in public.
UserPostedImage
nyrpack
8 years ago
nfl merchandise didnt think of it before the players !! lol
jimmy b.
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (2h) : uh oh
Martha Careful (3h) : Too bad camera's can't spot the ball as well.
Mucky Tundra (5h) : So will the chain gang be gone completely or will they still be around as a backup or whatever?
Zero2Cool (5h) : The method for measuring first downs in the NFL will switch from chain gangs to camera-based technology in 2025, the league announced.
Martha Careful (8h) : A big step in the right direction. Just put in the college system is very very good.
Zero2Cool (10h) : NFL has passed a rule that allows both teams to possess the ball in OT during the regular season
Zero2Cool (10h) : Touchbacks on kickoffs will now bring the ball to the 35-yard line.
beast (31-Mar) : It might of gotten more popular recently, but braiding hair (even men) in certain cultures goes back for centuries.
Martha Careful (30-Mar) : Is men braiding their hair a new style thing? Watching the NCAA men's tournament many players have done
Zero2Cool (29-Mar) : Ha. Well, it'd be nice for folks to reset their own password. Via validated email 😏
beast (29-Mar) : Monopoly was supposed to be an educational game, that show how evil capitalism was and how we should avoid it
beast (29-Mar) : Lol, I was thinking username would be better, as then I wouldn't have to keep an email up to date lol 😂
beast (29-Mar) : Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : I was thinking email because I think it'll make folks keep it up todate lol
wpr (29-Mar) : sure is
Zero2Cool (29-Mar) : Monopoly is a rip off of The Landlord's Game
wpr (27-Mar) : 28 days until the draft
earthquake (27-Mar) : Which seemed strange to my 9 year old self, that you could be a fan for a team other than the one you play for
earthquake (27-Mar) : Nothing eventful happened, other than it being clear that he was a bengals fan
earthquake (27-Mar) : And we went and hung out with him one afternoon, I must have been 9 or so
earthquake (27-Mar) : That’s wild, when I was a kid my friend lived in the same apartment complex in De Pere
Mucky Tundra (27-Mar) : Only career highspot was a 200 yard rushing game while playing for the Cardinals
Mucky Tundra (27-Mar) : He is a former Packer. Drafted out of Northern Illinois. Didn't do much in GB.
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Despicable
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : Former NFL. I think Packers too
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : NFL RB Leshon Johnson has been charged in a massive dog fighting operation, with the FBI seizing over 190 Pit Bulls
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Some real irony of a QB as short as Wilson playing for the Giants
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Giants country, let's be the tall beings of lore!
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Russell Wilson signs with the Giants.
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : I was thinking email because I think it'll make folks keep it up todate lol
wpr (25-Mar) : I don't think there is a significant difference. I use a user name for many. Others email.
Martha Careful (25-Mar) : email
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : would it be better to use EMAIL or USERNAME to log into a site?
wpr (25-Mar) : Thanks Zero
Zero2Cool (24-Mar) : New forum has the ability to Thank a post now.
beast (24-Mar) : And the only time they have won the Championship in an even year, was the first time they did, in 2006.
beast (24-Mar) : Since 2007, there have been 10 odd numbered years, Wisconsin Women have won the Championship in 7 of those 10 odd numbered years.
buckeyepackfan (24-Mar) : Congratulations Lady Badger Hockey Team. NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!
Zero2Cool (23-Mar) : I don't think it's completed yet. it was just announced last month, right?
dhazer (23-Mar) : did netflix ever release the Packers documentary
Zero2Cool (21-Mar) : And it is glorious!
beast (21-Mar) : Unsigned FA QB Rodgers is supposedly in the Steelers building
Martha Careful (19-Mar) : But I don't own a car! So can I still use it in my apartment?
Zero2Cool (19-Mar) : btw, new site auto updates
Zero2Cool (19-Mar) : Woohoo!
TheKanataThrilla (19-Mar) : Oops I guess I should have updated the site before posting
TheKanataThrilla (19-Mar) : Jeremy Fowler @JFowlerESPN · Follow Source: Free agent WR/return specialist Mecole Hardman is signing with the #Packers on a one-year deal.
Zero2Cool (18-Mar) : Former Packers wide receiver Bob Long, who stayed in Wisconsin after playing days, dies at age 83
Martha Careful (17-Mar) : PFOW, Pati O'Furniture
wpr (17-Mar) : Thanks dfosterf. Been a while since I heard the song.
packerfanoutwest (17-Mar) : so who is the first Irish woman you see in the springtime?
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

31-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

30-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

29-Mar / Random Babble / wpr

28-Mar / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / dfosterf

28-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

26-Mar / Random Babble / Mucky Tundra

25-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

24-Mar / Random Babble / packerfanoutwest

24-Mar / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

21-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

19-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

19-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

18-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.