NFL to outlaw hoodies with 'James Jones rule'· Page 2

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

If a players hair is long enough that it reaches the jersey, it's part of the uniform and can be used to pull the player down, therefore it's up to the player to keep their hair short.

When you're chasing a ballcarrier with other 200-300lb athletes pushing and shoving you around it is very possible to inadvertently grab someone's hoodie and yank them to the ground. It's not that hard to understand the concept at all and it's obviously a very valid rule to help with player safety.

We need to understand that these are human beings, not machines and just because there is a rule preventing horse collar tackling doesn't mean it will never happen unintentionally.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Of course there is inadvertent tackles. Or td saving tackles. The player who puts the hoodie on know what might happen. Sorry I didn't read the deadlock rules. I heard the tv talking heads proclaim players can grab hair. I feel the same way about the hair as I do the hoodie. Wear it at your own peril.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#12

Originally Posted by: wpr

Dreadlocks and long hair are and have been open game. Best example I can remember was Polamalu

Hoodies would have been treated the same way, it would have been legal to grab and tackle by.

The big reason this needed to be addressed is because of the change to the Horsecollar tackle rule for 2016. Which adds the name plate area of the jersey. last year and before if the defender grabbed the jersey without getting inside the collar area it wasn't a horsecollar. It would have resulted in cases where what would have been a horse collar tackle ended up being a hoodie tackle and also cases where what would have been legal tackles be coming hoodie tackles. The rules would have to either make them all legal or all illegal, otherwise officials would have to try and determine intent. This way, there is no question.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#13

Dreadlocks and long hair are and have been open game. Best example I can remember was Polamalu

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

I understand. My comment remains the same. Players know the risk. If they give the defense an extra advantage it's their own fault. No need for extra rules because of stupidity.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#14

There were really three choices, go counter to player safety which the NFL can't afford to do in this day or disadvantage defenses even more. Or just don't allow them which doesn't disadvantage anyone and doesn't make anything more dangerous.

It was a no brainer decision.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

8 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: wpr

I understand what you're saying by too many rules, you know I hate rules in general, but this one I have to agree with. Yes, players should know the risk, but can't we say the same about concussions and head injuries? Sometimes when you're in your early 20's you feel you will live forever and that makes you commit to poor decisions.

Honestly, I think jewelry should be disallowed. I see some of these guys wearing huge crosses around their neck or big diamond earrings and I just can't help think how stupid they are for it. Aside from the financial loss if/when it falls out on to the field that could do some serious damage to you if you get hit just right.

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Yeah the jewelry can be an issue. A few years ago I heard a player (could have been a MLB player.) talk about his jewelry. He had pieces that he only wore during the game. Other pieces he wore during practice and others he wore when out in public.

nyrpack
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#17

nfl merchandise didnt think of it before the players !! lol

jimmy b.

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