When a man finds out that his wife has cheated on him, typically the man takes his frustration out on the guy who slept with his wife. Logic says the person at fault is the wife as she knew she was married and the guy might not have even known. I view illegal aliens in the similar tone because if we wouldn't hire them, they wouldn't be "taking" jobs away from citizens.

I do not know that I want any one shipped out, but I do know I want the wall high to prevent others from coming in illegally. I'd be fine with allowing the OPPORTUNITY for the illegals to earn citizenship that are already here. My reasoning for this is because no one wakes up saying they want to rob a bank because they have money. No one wakes up saying they want to steal a loaf of bread because they have four loaves. No. Thieves are born out of necessity for survival.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

All problems could be resolved by getting rid of democrats.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

Fulghum's is all good advice. (My mother was a kindergarten teacher, by the way.)

Unfortunately, it misses my main point. Or, more likely, I was unclear. Again.

Let me try one more time.

Were I a parent, or a kindergarten teacher, and I knew I had a kid who was attracted to fire, I'd probably try to convince him or her that fire was a dangerous thing.

Well, by my reading of the Book, the bad consequences of playing with the wrath of God are rather larger than the bad consequences of grabbing a branch out of the campfire.

If all that mattered is the kindergarten of this life, I'd have no problem with any sort of sexual behavior whatsoever.

Problem is, this life is *only* kindergarten compared to eternity.

And when it comes to eternity, the possibilities for the wrath of my God terrify me.

Utterly terrify me.

Because his Word demands far more obedience of us than Robert Fulghum does or my mother the kindergarten teacher ever did. And part of what it requires in that "love thy neighbor as thyself" is pointing out that He really doesn't like it when His children ignore His posted rules about keeping our hands (or other parts of our body) out of certain fires.

To my mind, the worst thing that could happen to a LGBT practitoner/believer is not me pointing out their sin. The worst thing that could happen to them (or to me did I knowingly fail to point out that sin) is for them to stand before Jesus and have him say to us, plainly, "I never knew you. Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness".

I don't want that to happen to me. I don't want that to happen to *anyone*.

You want to label pointing out what Romans 1 says, "bashing"? Fine. Me, I call it trying to obey God and avoid the wrath promised by Jesus in Matthew 7:23.

Nothing out-trumps trying to obey God with all one's heart, mind, soul, and strength.

Nothing.

Originally Posted by: Wade 

I'm going to be slurping up Margaritas on the Baja Peninsula with my Latino brothers and sisters apologizing for all the shitheads that live in this country.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

You think you'll be a Lord or a Serf, in the oligarchy? I don't think you're Lord material, you have Serf written all over your dumb ass.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

I understood the first time, but thanks for another novel.

Try this one on for size, Wade. Your eternity is going to be determined by what you were put through and overcame in this world. So I guess you have to look back on your life and ask yourself were you a cakeeater or soldier. We're all sinners after all.

You're going to live out your days fearing God. Have fun with that. I'm going to be slurping up Margaritas on the Baja Peninsula with my Latino brothers and sisters apologizing for all the shitheads that live in this country.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

Originally Posted by: Wade 

Imagine if all those contractors wouldn't be hiring illegal immigrants and not paying in the payroll taxes, would a wall even be necessary? Would those illegals even be here. Once again, people are being skewed away from the truth by their idiot politics.

Shouldn't those contractors be placed in prison? Aren't they the ones bringing in the illegal workers? Shouldn't people who eat, sleep, and shit Republican grow a brain.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

Not possible.
Since we know that there is no gender in heaven I am sure there is no race either.
And no one will care about what happened while they were here.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

Curiously people want the law enforced...on everyone else. This swings both ways. Trump got in trouble after using illegals to build the original Trump Tower in NYC. People tend to want the government out of their lives but into everyone else's, depending on which end of the right/left spectrum they fall into.

Having a balance to include all points of view is important. The issue of immigration to me is a great example. If left all to one side or the other to resolve it, the answer will not be good. The best work of the government is when it includes input from both sides, so that ultimately both are a little unhappy with the result.

This country is built on compromise from its very inception, and failure to compromise is always a disaster.

one more reason I think that Hillary, despite her many flaws is a better candidate than Trump. He is a megalomaniac who is perceived as honest because he is in-your-face. But a wheeler dealer like Hillary is more likely to horse trade favors with the opposition so things might get accomplished. Trump is used to gting his way and throws hissy fits when he doesn't get what he wants. I don't see him able to get anything done at all.

Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884