I don't believe players receive royalties from team sold merchandise. He does make money off of signed item but then pays royalties to nfl for the merchandise he signed.

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Deferring pay a year or two or three is a paycut.

Look at the lottery. you have two choices, 55mil now or 100mil in 5 mil a year over the next 20 years. which do you want?

Time value of money shows that I will have more than you if I take the 55 now.

If Favre was to make 10 mil this year and deferred it JUST ONE YEAR. and only took 7 this year and three next year, at 5% return (taxable equal of muni bonds) he is giving up 150k in interest alone. Now, say he invests and is able to get a better return that easily can double. Long term, it means millions with the counpounding of the interest.

How many of you would take 20 percent less this year and get it over the next three years instead?

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Is that your personal opinion?

I drank with him and his college buddies one night in Milwaukee following one of his first games as the starter for GB. Really nice, shy guy. Very polite. Called me "sir" even though I am only 8 yrs older than him. I would hardly call him arrogant.

I had lunch with him a couple of years ago and he had the same disposition. Very polite, self efacing, and humble. Confident, but never thought too much of himself.

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Yaaaay, another thread defending Favre and arguing minor points. What a surprise to see Tripp involved in such a thread.

::Yaaaawn:::


Next thread please.

You don't need to agree with my points but I would think you would respect the right to counterpoint ANY point.

I just don't think Favre is the Villian that he is made out to be here. It is ok for soemone to call him an arrogant idiot, however apparently in your "highly esteemed" opinion, it is boring to have an opinion of one of the few who can actually say they have encountered him personally.

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Trippster....

Do not leave me hanging here. I think this is so cool.

When you had lunch with him a few years ago, how many people were at the table with you and Brett? Were there other players there?

Where did you guys have lunch? How did you get to have lunch with him?

I am waiting like a 10 year old child on Christmas for the details.

That is so cool.

R.P.

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Tripps comments are very accurate about Brett. Brett was more accurately described as confident than arrogant. His mindset was that of which all quarterbacks need. A short one. If you worry about throwing a pass into coverage again because the last time it was picked you won't make it as far as he did. In some respects some will see that as arrogance, but its not arrogant. It's not that he didn't care. It was because it was what he had to be. It comes from being coached at the youngest level.

Forget the bad plays and go for the big plays.

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That's cool that you knew him personally, but I'm just overall tired of all the Brett "debates." I've been hearing them for months and months and these "debates" are just the same ole thing over and other again. It's not you personally, it just gets old. There are a TON of things for fans of the Packers to be talking about, but yet 80% or more of the conversation is still about Brett Favre, whom is no longer a Packer.

I understand he is a special player, but still. The same ole stuff just gets old, off season or not.

If you're gonna retire, decide to come back months later and expect the same job--you've gotta be pretty arrogant.

If you want to be traded to a team within in the same division to prove that you can beat your old team--not only are you arrogant, but you're an idiot.

Brett taking all those pain killers? Idiotic. Risking the loss of his family because of his over-the-top drinking and partying? Idiotic. Leading the league in all-time interceptions? Idiotic.

But my point wasn't really talking about his arrogance and idiocy, but the fact that he owes more to Green Bay than Green Bay owes to him. Like I said, Wolf gave Brett -- a nobody at the time -- his one shot. Holmgren had just about enough of him, but he gave him one more shot. That's where the legend was made.

Brett's public dispute with Ted Thompson makes him look like as much of an ass as Javon Walker and Darren Sharper.

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I contemplate my future and where I am heading often, sometimes I made a decision, say this past week an investment in these rough economic times which restricted my cash flow. However upon reflection this weekend, I came to the decision that the investment is too risky, I am not comfortable with it completely now and am going to pull out this week.

Does this make me arrogant because I think I can just pull my money back out and deposit back into savings?

It may seem arrogant to you in your prespective, but compound it into something tangible for yourself and it sheds a different light upon it.

I can relate to a sort because the game I loved to play was forcely taken away from me.. there isn't a single day I don't play the "what if" game. If there was someway I could play again.. I probably would risk a ton to do so. I am an competition and football addict.. it really isn't that far of a stretch to see why he flipped on his decision.

None of it was arrogant driven, IMO.

Now the way both he and Thompson, both have blame, handled the whole situation was a pathetic display of communication and conflict resolution. The thing is, the Packers learned from the situation and probably have moved on already, less direct emotional investment on their parts, they say goodbye to players all the time.

On Brett's side, it was a more committed emotional relationship with the team, teammates and fans.. he struggled in dealing with the parting.. I don't see that as arrogant either.

Brett is human, he allowed his emotion to cloud his decision making and allowed those emotions to drive his decision making.. many people make that same mistake.. most divorces are probably driven on such a principle.

I don't possess ill feelings towards either side, you can see the way it played out even without the exact details and noted conversations.

Seeing Brett with Christopher upon the sidelines on CF wish.... arrogant never entered my mind.



If ones strips the emotion of the past year away, look at the entire body of work that Brett and his family projected upon the community of Green Bay and Northeastern Wisconsin, one would never use arrogant and Brett in the same sentence.

Over Emotional... hell yeah.

Confident and possessing an ego.. yes.

Compulsive... I seen him downtown and at his brothers bar the Broke Spoke in the early 90's.. yes at least then he was very compulsive in nature.. nothing more than any other college aged or mid twenties red blooded American male..

For those that have spent time with him, somewhat shy and reserved, very mindful of his company and respectful as all get out... and from what some say, highly intelligent, even though he never wanted that reveiled.

Just as some over praised him, there are going to be some that want to tear him apart currently.. fueled on emotion.. and just as Brett displayed last offseason.. when emotion is the driver, rational decision making and patience are not readily available.

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