nerdmann
9 years ago

Kiper doesn't see inside linebacker as need for Packers, believes in Jake Ryan

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I think Ryan can get it done. Barrington too. If there's a super stud OLB, I'd grab him. In fact if there's a game changer at LT, RB, TE I might even go there too.

But this bullshit with ILBs has gone on long enough. It'd be nice to solidify that position.
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porky88
9 years ago
One injury to Ryan or Barrington and the Packers are back to playing Clay Matthews inside. That is unacceptable. The position needs to be solidified through the draft or free agency.
nerdmann
9 years ago

One injury to Ryan or Barrington and the Packers are back to playing Clay Matthews inside. That is unacceptable. The position needs to be solidified through the draft or free agency.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



Clay still needs to show he's still got it on the outside. But yeah.
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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
I'm sort of in agreement. The guys we have can play the run, and I think we are going to see less ILB on passing downs in favor of Safeties that can cover better.
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PackerTraxx
9 years ago
The problem I see with that is on 3rd and 2 or 3 do you play an LB or S. Either way the offense can audible out. So I still would like to see a more capable LB. As you said on passing downs playing a S should work, but I would trade up if necessary to get an LB that could stay in.
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Wade
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9 years ago
I like Ryan. I do. I think he's got much more upside potential than the alternatives we've seen in recent years.

But the Packers also need substantial improvement at the ILB position from last year.

And I hate being satisfied with "further development of potential of what we've got.

I don't think the need is such that Ted Thompson should stretch for an ILB, and given this year's limited crop, that means its unlikely that the Packers will have a quality-for-draft-position ILB available when they're on the clock.

But it is still a need.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

I like Ryan. I do. I think he's got much more upside potential than the alternatives we've seen in recent years.

But the Packers also need substantial improvement at the ILB position from last year.

And I hate being satisfied with "further development of potential of what we've got.

I don't think the need is such that Ted Thompson should stretch for an ILB, and given this year's limited crop, that means its unlikely that the Packers will have a quality-for-draft-position ILB available when they're on the clock.

But it is still a need.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



A pro offseason in the weight room could do wonder for Ryan. But if we have a shot at a game changer, that would be really really sweet.
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DakotaT
9 years ago

I like Ryan. I do. I think he's got much more upside potential than the alternatives we've seen in recent years.

But the Packers also need substantial improvement at the ILB position from last year.

And I hate being satisfied with "further development of potential of what we've got.

I don't think the need is such that Ted Thompson should stretch for an ILB, and given this year's limited crop, that means its unlikely that the Packers will have a quality-for-draft-position ILB available when they're on the clock.

But it is still a need.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



Is there some kind of reason we couldn't sign a stop gap 30 year old player to a 3 year contract while grooming a young linebacker? Do we have to continue doing this on the job training and being gashed up the middle of our defense because we lack an experienced inside linebacker?
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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago

The problem I see with that is on 3rd and 2 or 3 do you play an LB or S. Either way the offense can audible out. So I still would like to see a more capable LB. As you said on passing downs playing a S should work, but I would trade up if necessary to get an LB that could stay in.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



It is pretty much all dependent on the personnel package of the offense. If they load up heavy, we would have ILBers, if they spread out and empty the backfield we go with different personnel.
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millertime
9 years ago
Name to look out for = Tahir Whitehead. He was underutilized in Detroit. Would be good depth/potential starter.
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