blueleopard
9 years ago
Long-term, I'd go Andrew Luck.

Win now, Tom Brady.
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RaiderPride
9 years ago

Carr is someone I had in fantasy off and on. I don't know about him...he chucks up a lot of dumb interceptions. That is one of the reasons I was so excited for Rodgers over Favre is I was so freaking tired of seeing stupid inopportune INT's...Carr is hot and cold much like Brett was. I'm really curious to see where he goes. He has Cooper and Crabtree...two 1st rounders at WR. Maybe, he restores that Raiders glory of the past.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Source PFT:

"Derek Carr is really, really good.

How good? When it comes to passing touchdowns in the first two seasons of his career, Carr is second only to Dan Marino.

Marino had an incredible start to his career, passing for 20 touchdowns in 1983 and then setting a new NFL record with 48 touchdown passes in 1984. His total of 68 touchdown passes in his first two seasons obliterated the previous mark (set by Fran Tarkenton, who had 40 touchdown passes in 1961-62) and has never even been approached since.

But Carr, who passed for 21 touchdown passes as a rookie in 2014 and 32 touchdown passes last year, now has the best total for any player to start a career since Marino. Carr surpasses Peyton Manning and Russell Wilson, who each had 52 touchdown passes in their first two seasons.

Mentioned alongside Marino, Manning and Wilson, Carr is starting his career in some very good company.





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uffda udfa
9 years ago

Source PFT:

"Derek Carr is really, really good.

How good? When it comes to passing touchdowns in the first two seasons of his career, Carr is second only to Dan Marino.

Marino had an incredible start to his career, passing for 20 touchdowns in 1983 and then setting a new NFL record with 48 touchdown passes in 1984. His total of 68 touchdown passes in his first two seasons obliterated the previous mark (set by Fran Tarkenton, who had 40 touchdown passes in 1961-62) and has never even been approached since.

But Carr, who passed for 21 touchdown passes as a rookie in 2014 and 32 touchdown passes last year, now has the best total for any player to start a career since Marino. Carr surpasses Peyton Manning and Russell Wilson, who each had 52 touchdown passes in their first two seasons.

Mentioned alongside Marino, Manning and Wilson, Carr is starting his career in some very good company.




Originally Posted by: RaiderPride 



I looked at his pick numbers when I saw this on PFT earlier today. I was surprised they were actually moderate and not as high as I suspected. Bortles won me a couple of leagues and he had more picks than Carr but he also had more TD's this past year with 35. Two good young QB's.


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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Marcus Mariota has all of the tools you need and want from the quarterback position. He's physically talented and has strong leadership qualities. You pair him with a coaching staff that can coach up quarterbacks and you will have a solid quarterbacked team for a good decade, maybe more.
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Pack93z
9 years ago
Do we have to have a candy ass pretty boy on the team? lol. 😉
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Rockmolder
9 years ago

Do we have to have a candy ass pretty boy on the team? lol. ;)

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Not really. Would mean we don't have to use any WRs, receiving TEs or pass blocking o-linemen anymore either. We'll fix a whole lot of problems with just one simple change.

On topic, I'd go with Brady for right now. He's the only one up there with Rodgers and Brees now that Manning is done.

Taking the future of the team into account, I'd go for Wilson. Mariota or Winston may be better in the long run, but it'd be too much of a gamble for me. A guy like Luck may have better physical tools from a pure passing standpoint, but I've seen nothing that leads me to believe that he's a better overall QB than Russell Wilson is.
Pack93z
9 years ago


On topic

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



Fine... on topic.

Assuming we are talking about a Mike McCarthy lead team, the ideal replacement would have to have:

1. High Football IQ
2. Mobile and ability to throw on the run.
3. Great Vision

That eliminates a good chunk of the QB base in the NFL...

Long Term:

Russ Wilson - Seen him first hand at Camp Randall... checks all boxes.

Short Term:

Rivers or Brady - yes even with that ugly throwing motion, Rivers would be on the short list.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
I would love to see what Matt Stafford could do under our coaching staff.
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