Zero2Cool
9 years ago

I agree with you Z to a point but as I pointed out in another thread that high ankle sprain didn't help nor did having almost no coaching in his sophomore season. Let's see what happens through camp. Wouldn't be surprised with Nelson back if Adams productions looks more like his rookie season.

Originally Posted by: 68md 



I'm hoping they split up the WR and QB coaching with two people instead of one trying to do them both. I think that is what you may have been alluding to regarding coaching and in that regard, I concur.
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uffda udfa
9 years ago
Where are we getting the idea that Adams had almost no coaching? If anything, he probably got more coaching due to the issues we were having than less especially with how we were counting on him with Jordy out. His coaching must've been great during OTA's and TC where he was team MVP per Mike McCarthy and was ready to be a star per Aaron.

This comes off as trying to excuse the fact this guy was simply terrible plain and simple no excuse needed. Sometimes that is what it is. Is that even a consideration that this guy might be a bust? Seems like that possibility isn't even entertained.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


TheKanataThrilla
9 years ago
I remember wanting to throw away Crosby when he had his one terrible year. It would have been a huge mistake. Now I sure hope we sign him even if it costs more than Ted wants to pay. I didn't like what I saw from Adams last year, but I hope with time to get his focus together and another year of maturity he can get move forward in his development. For the record he did look pretty good in the Washington game before his injury. Granted against weak DBs, but he I am trying to look for positives.

I still think we draft a WR this year. I am just curious as to what round it will be as it may give some insight as to the confidence the team has in the current guys we have unless of course somebody is just too BPA to pass on.
uffda udfa
9 years ago

I remember wanting to throw away Crosby when he had his one terrible year. It would have been a huge mistake. Now I sure hope we sign him even if it costs more than Ted wants to pay. I didn't like what I saw from Adams last year, but I hope with time to get his focus together and another year of maturity he can get move forward in his development. For the record he did look pretty good in the Washington game before his injury. Granted against weak DBs, but he I am trying to look for positives.

I still think we draft a WR this year. I am just curious as to what round it will be as it may give some insight as to the confidence the team has in the current guys we have unless of course somebody is just too BPA to pass on.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



For every Crosby there's 10 guys who ain't. It's rare to have a turnaround but kickers are unique compared to other positions. Kickers are like golfers. Even the world's greatest golfers go on cold streaks like Crosby. When that happens they usually get a new swing coach, work on their game, and comeback better...but not always. I'm not sure of what parallel fits with a WR?

I think of Tedd Ginn...a total bust for many years. Now, he's performing quite nicely in Carolina. Not used right in SF and other places? Has that speed that matters. Did he just get better? Not sure. Davante doesn't have Ginn's gift of speed. Not sure how a guy who can't run that well and isn't a quick twitch guy rises to anything more than maybe, just maybe a borderline 3rd possession type WR. He isn't good with it in his hands so you don't want to throw him quick hitches. We saw how fruitless those attempts were this season. He isn't a homerun threat...so what is he? A possession guy who can maybe catch mid range chain moving passes on occasion. Just not a guy you're ever going to count on to be much for you. Yeah, he looked okay vs. New England last year...the same game he dropped a gimme TD pass that very well could've cost us the game.

I like how Dakota thinks...make him our 5th or 6th guy. He should be able to beat the worst CB on the field once in awhile.

All I want to know is what is the basis for thinking he's going to be fine? I disbelieve the idea that he wasn't coached right or enough. Did we hear he couldn't run routes properly? No. We've heard raves about how he gets it (play at Miami in rookie year comes to mind)... I just believe he does not possess the skill set to be a plus player for us.

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