Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Okay, maybe 'fine' is too harsh, but they should be penalized far more than simply missing out on referring a playoff game.

The referees do get a scolding and docked points for blown calls. With that said, there should be more accountability held. They wanted more money, great, then if money means more to them than being consistent in the NFL, hit them in the pocketbook.

How hard would it be to ask the review booth if a player threw a punch? Or better yet, how hard would it be for the review booth to say "hey, #59 threw a punch"?

Make the referee's accountable for their actions. I doubt it'll eliminate referee's being paid off, since those who are paying them off would just add the fine ...



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beast
13 years ago
What about the times the Refs are right and the NFL is wrong? (like when the NFL told the Vikings sorry for the Ref being wrong (when the Ref was right) about Harvin not making that catch last year with his hands on top of the ball, landing on it when it was sticking straight up and down and turned)

That ball hit the ground and had to turn if the ground didn't take the impact and there would of been a hole in the ground if it did.

But I'd be up for looking at the Refs plan and maybe giving them more reason to get the "correct" calls but i wouldn't over do it ether, because then some crews might be calling every single little thing, taking over the game and not letting the players play. As some players have said there is holding every single play... it's just weather it's bad enough to be called and weather the refs see it or not...
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Your first paragraph, I admit, I'm confused, I'm not following what you're saying. If the NFL tells a team they are sorry for something, what about it? I'm not intentionally being obtuse, I just don't know what you're getting at, my bad.
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gbguy20
13 years ago

Okay, maybe 'fine' is too harsh, but they should be penalized far more than simply missing out on referring a playoff game.

The referees do get a scolding and docked points for blown calls. With that said, there should be more accountability held. They wanted more money, great, then if money means more to them than being consistent in the NFL, hit them in the pocketbook.

How hard would it be to ask the review booth if a player threw a punch? Or better yet, how hard would it be for the review booth to say "hey, #59 threw a punch"?

Make the referee's accountable for their actions. I doubt it'll eliminate referee's being paid off, since those who are paying them off would just add the fine ...



Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



The rules don't allow review of/for penalties. I don't understand why you are holding this against the refs. That has nothing to do with them.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

The rules don't allow review of/for penalties. I don't understand why you are holding this against the refs. That has nothing to do with them.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Ugh, more words being put into my mouth. Thank you sir, thank you.

No where did I say it was within the rules to review a penalty. It's fairly clear I'm suggesting the replay assistant have more of a role than reviewing Touchdown plays.

Failing to eject a player after a blatant thrown punch is indeed on the referee's. Perhaps they did not see the punch? Which is where my suggestion comes into to play of allowing the replay assistant to chime in WHEN something so black and white, such as Charles Woodson's punch.

One immediate issue I see with this suggestion is, if you allow the replay assistant to say "number such an such threw a punch at so an so", where do you stop?

I'm assuming the referee simply didn't see the punch thrown, rather than seen it and didn't eject the player. It would be nice if such obvious (little gray area) things like that could be handled more efficiently.

We have the technology to be more accurate, I would like to see it efficiently utilized without dragging the game on. I wouldn't mind every play being reviewed by a couple of individuals in a both with monitors and if something is clear as day, they can chime in.
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Pack93z
13 years ago
I think the answer is fairly simple.. have an official in a booth that reviews each and every play.. via replay, they can assist in where and item is missed or called incorrectly.

Example that I would utilize.. reviewing hits immediately and if they are called incorrectly or missed.. correct them on the spot.. not the next week via fine. Penalize or even eject if a hit warrants it.

The crews on the field don't miss a ton collectively.. but why not assist them.. it isn't like the tools are not there.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

I think the answer is fairly simple.. have an official in a booth that reviews each and every play.. via replay, they can assist in where and item is missed or called incorrectly.

Example that I would utilize.. reviewing hits immediately and if they are called incorrectly or missed.. correct them on the spot.. not the next week via fine. Penalize or even eject if a hit warrants it.

The crews on the field don't miss a ton collectively.. but why not assist them.. it isn't like the tools are not there.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 




Said far better than I did... that's what I'm saying ... we have the technology ... I think we can utilize to benefit the game.


The premise of fining the referee for missing the thrown punch, that's a little much because as mentioned, it could have been missed. I went a bit too far with my accountability line of thinking there, but I still would like to see something that is more deliberate for referee's being more accurate.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
They don't need fines, they need brail editions of football for dummies.
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gbguy20
13 years ago

Ugh, more words being put into my mouth. Thank you sir, thank you.

No where did I say it was within the rules to review a penalty. It's fairly clear I'm suggesting the replay assistant have more of a role than reviewing Touchdown plays.

Failing to eject a player after a blatant thrown punch is indeed on the referee's. Perhaps they did not see the punch? Which is where my suggestion comes into to play of allowing the replay assistant to chime in WHEN something so black and white, such as Charles Woodson's punch.

One immediate issue I see with this suggestion is, if you allow the replay assistant to say "number such an such threw a punch at so an so", where do you stop?

I'm assuming the referee simply didn't see the punch thrown, rather than seen it and didn't eject the player. It would be nice if such obvious (little gray area) things like that could be handled more efficiently.

We have the technology to be more accurate, I would like to see it efficiently utilized without dragging the game on. I wouldn't mind every play being reviewed by a couple of individuals in a both with monitors and if something is clear as day, they can chime in.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



The way you had it worded made it seem like that is what you were implying, my mistake.

To the Woodson penalty, if you don't think the ref saw the punch, then what do you see him getting the flag for? Apparently, the rulebook doesn't require an automatic ejection when punches are thrown or landed, the announcer was wrong. 2 games last week had punches thrown and neither time was there an ejection. Andre Johnson and whoever the Titan was last year didn't get ejected last year and that shit was crazy.

To the rest of this discussion, the idea behind it is ok, but what happens when put in to practice? Ref calls a penalty, ball is moved. Review assistant says nope, they then have to rescind the penalty and move the ball back. It just seems like it would make the whole thing a mockery. Maybe I would be ok with this in the final 2 minutes of close games just to avoid decisive game changing bad calls, maybe.

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