DakotaT
9 years ago

The players that Ted Thompson put on the roster and the players that Mike McCarthy put on the field came within 1 play of advancing in the playoffs each of the last 3 years. One of those would have put them in the SB. I'm not sure what more the coach or GM could have done on each of those plays. That's three plays in three years for a minimum of three more playoff wins. If we get those three plays this conversation is much much shorter if it happens at all.

Yes, McCarthy has a tendency to go conservative too soon in many games. He should keep going for it all and blitzing every play until the final whistle no matter what the score is. He should also foresee a player having a great game in the playoffs and play him a lot more in the regular season despite perhaps not knowing the offense. No matter that that WR was one of only two realistic options in that playoff game so his big numbers are not all that surprising.

Granted Ted should probably utilize FA a bit more and make trades to address weak positions like TE where we maybe could have gotten a player who would have given us 20 receptions for 200 yards and 0 TDs instead of the player that got us 30 receptions for 286 yards and 4 tds over the same time frame. I know I 'd rather have the 20/200/0 wouldn't you.

Still, three plays and three more wins, minimum. That's not to to shabby. Ted Thompson signs players and Mike McCarthy coaches players to make plays and they make a lot of them. Sadly they don't make all of them but no player does.

Our coach and our GM are not perfect. They are like every other coach and GM in the league in that respect. That said I think they are better than the vast majority of them. It wouldn't surprise me if Mike McCarthy wants a few more weapons. What coach wouldn't? But how does that translate to being "fed up" I read through Mike Florio's article where he mentions Bob McGinn's article so I read Bobs article and never saw anything where he indicated Mike McCarthy was fed up. Its obvious BM is fed up but according to several sources BM is a moron so take what he says with a grain of salt.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Funny, Ron Wolf put together a team that pounded their competition en route to their Super Bowls. In all reality, our competition in 2010 was Sub-par and we were within a shoelace tackle of getting beat in Philadelphia.

I fail to see your point in that long winded post. What disappoints me in TT's approach of filling out his roster is the glaring holes he continues to leave when he's sitting on millions every year that he has to try and burn off in December to an upcoming free agent, or else he squanders money on mediocre talent, please see the contracts of Brad Jones and AJ Hawk.
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uffda udfa
9 years ago
Ted is double dumb as Dakota noted...not only will he not pay for good free agents he'll overpay his own subpar players. That's a compounded loss.

Aaron Rodgers hides a ton of this garbage, though. Although, he sure didn't hide it this season. I can understand why Nerd alleges what he alleges. Nerd fully believes Aaron is fed up with MM. We now have heard that MM is fed up with TT. What a great relationship. If LeBron was a Packer MM would've been fired years ago and probably the GM, too.

I'm very curious to know how the board of directors feels now?

People want to nitpick the McGinn piece and discredit it but how can you not believe it? Does Ted Thompson stand up when this team loses and speak to the press? Where's his big state of the Packers? He's hiding letting MM speak. Ted Thompson is not a leader...he's a disgrace in that regard. He's soft and has no leadership abilities. I truly wonder how this org would be with a Wolf/Harbaugh in charge. I believe we would've been the Niners of Montana Young vintage. Instead, we get this. Hooray.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


9 years ago
And I'm fed up with your "play not to lose" mentality, Mikie!! Maybe it's time for you to get out of town, before it's too late!
blueleopard
9 years ago

Funny, Ron Wolf put together a team that pounded their competition en route to their Super Bowls. In all reality, our competition in 2010 was Sub-par and we were within a shoelace tackle of getting beat in Philadelphia.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 




Yeah, but Wolf also had Mike Holmgren, who put together one of the greatest coaching trees in the history of the sport. It comes as no surprise the regression came immediately after Holmgren and the rest of his staff jumped ship.
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uffda udfa
9 years ago

Yeah, but Wolf also had Mike Holmgren, who put together one of the greatest coaching trees in the history of the sport. It comes as no surprise the regression came immediately after Holmgren and the rest of his staff jumped ship.

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Wolf also put together an executive tree that Ted Thompson benefited from but now that is eroding with our executive types proliferating all over the league.


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Porforis
9 years ago

Why is Mike McCarthy in position to complain and use fear based play calling?

None of that happens if he's not extended. Who extended him, again? You can't answer a simple question.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



He's not answering the question because he never said nor implied that Ted Thompson is blameless. Stating that Mike McCarthy calling out Ted Thompson is hypocritical does not equate to stating that said calling out contains no merit in and of itself.
PackerTraxx
9 years ago
TT and MM have the same number of SB wins as RW and MH.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

He's not answering the question because he never said nor implied that Ted Thompson is blameless. Stating that Mike McCarthy calling out Ted Thompson is hypocritical does not equate to stating that said calling out contains no merit in and of itself.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Thanks. You can explain things over and over again to Uffda, but you can't make him more intelligent.

Do I think Ted is blameless? No. Could he do better? Yeah. But I don't put the failure of the last two seasons on the players he has acquired.
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9 years ago



“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
dhazer
9 years ago

TT and Mike McCarthy have the same number of SB wins as RW and MH.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



MM stats 10 years

104-55-1 regular season
8-7 post season
1 Superbowl
twice didn't make the playoffs
3 1 and done


Holmgren 7 years

75-37 regular season
9-5 post season
5 consecutive seasons with playoff win
3 straight NFC championship games
2 Super Bowls
1 non playoff season 9-7 2nd in north


But your right they only have 1 each, but I felt alot better about the Homgren teams than the MM teams. Wolf would go out and find those guys to help out, the Keith Jacksons and Andre "Bad Moon" Rison. They weren't big names but guys that filled voids for us. Desmond Howard for cripes sake to fill in a return role. You do not see that from MM and TT.



Everyone is thinking we should be so great next year with the easy schedule on paper, but i wouldn't bank on it. This team is in turmoil and it can't be fixed until new people are brought in. You can't have guys coming in overweight and nothing said of it. You can't have your QB calling out everyone because he is not playing well. You have people complaining the young guys aren't studying which means we have no leadership. And that all starts at the top with TT.
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