Blame for underachieving season falls on Mike McCarthy, Ted Thompson

nerdmann
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We had a bad year. Its everyone's fault. We didn't win the division for the 5th straight year, that sucks. We didn't win the super bowl, that also sucks. Thompson probably could do a better job in free agency. I'm willing to bet money we win the division next season. After that, the playoffs are any given Sunday. I can't handle another off season of the same whiny pointless shit. Bitching for the sake of bitching. Never do I read solutions, only hollow complaints.

Originally Posted by: voiceofreason

Even Uffda has solutions. PLAY JANIS MORE! CUT DAVANTE AND RICHARD RODGERS!

We're not just bitching for the sake of bitching. We're fans. We're calling out the epic failure of the team of which we are part owners.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

DakotaT
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9 years ago

#22

Anybody watching Carolina thoroughly destroy Arizona tonight? Now that's a well put together football team. A nice mixture of youth and veterans. Athleticism all over the field. A defensive scheme that is actually well executed, and an offense that is geared towards the strengths of its players.

We would be getting thoroughly thrashed right now too, and anybody that thinks otherwise is really foolish.

TheKanataThrilla
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#23

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Props to Carolina, but Arizona is creating a lot of unforced errors.

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uffda udfa
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#24

Originally Posted by: voiceofreason

You never read solutions? You must not be reading at all then.

How many people wanted Dom Capers out of here years ago? That's not a solution? Have you read me type over and over and over how we need speed and a red zone TE that commands attention from opposing D coords? Speed at WR...speed from a 3rd down back who can catch and be a weapon on 3rd down. A GM with passion and energy with personality who will stand up and face the media when his team falls short not goes and buries his head like an ostrich. A GM who will use FA and not overpay guys like Bulaga who are nothing but major injury risks. A GM who will fix things before 4 or 5 years go by with terrible play at a position. No solutions? Just whining?

It's tired hearing R E L A X typed out in different forms around here. There is no reason to relax at all. Football is a game of emotion. There is little in Packers land. It's an emotionless stale organization...it was played out all over our MVP's face this season. A direct reflection of this moribund management.

I laugh at the thinking that points to the distant past as a reasoning for why we don't need to change. Welcome to 2016. There is a lot of things that need to change around 1265...the kind of things that happened the offseason before 2010 to get us back to where a team with a QB like 12 should be or very very close every single season.

Keep being happy...I'll keep typing what is wrong and what is right and what should be done. You can continue typing that you don't see anything but complaining. You only see what you want to see anyway so I'm not surprised.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

voiceofreason
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9 years ago

#25

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Your solution is always fire everyone. A true solution would provide reasonable replacements.

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sschind
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9 years ago

#26

Ted doesn't care for media leaks. Ask Andrew Brandt about that.

If Mike really is talking shit about Ted behind Ted's back, he could be gone sooner than later. Let's not forget Aaron's antics this season either. He might be the source, trying to pit the two against each other. Hard to say.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I strongly suspect that the sources version of "fed up" is somewhat embellished.

sschind
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9 years ago

#27

Who cares about the source? Do you think this is true or not? How could it not be true? Mike McCarthy isn't going to say this publicly so the best you're going to get is something like this...now, it is up to you whether you believe it or not. I believe it 100%. Anyone who actually wants to win would feel this way.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Sources provide credibility. In fact I don't believe it. I don't think MM is fed up with TTs lack of free agent participation. I have sources that say a lot of things but if I repeated them here it would be irresponsible and if I made up some fantastic headline just to garner hits or whatever it would be doubly irresponsible.

I suspect MMs "fed up" somewhat exaggerated.

Why doesn't it surprise me though that you are loving this. Its more PROOF that you are right, right.

uffda udfa
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#28

Your solution is always fire everyone. A true solution would provide reasonable replacements.

Originally Posted by: voiceofreason

I desperately wanted Jim Harbaugh when he was available. Oh, but that wasn't going to happen because we just extended a guy who should be out the door.

The irony with you is this... If you were in a very bad relationship with a woman you probably would never leave just because the relationship was bad simply because you didn't have a better solution lined up. The situation in Green Bay is stale and uninspiring. What I know is we need to get out of this bad relationship with the hope we won't jump right into another one. MM was coordinator of the 32nd ranked offense when we hired him. To this day, I do not understand his hiring. I get the Thompson thing as he was a Wolf guy but he is the exact opposite of his type A passionate risk taking mentor. We have a D. Coord that should be in mothballs somewhere. He barely had a job with the Patriots when we found him.

I've said I would prefer Eliot Wolf to Ted Thompson. Honestly, a person with personality would be really nice for this organization. Someone who'll use FA. I sat and watched Greg Olsen up there on the FOX set. FA tight end. Ted Ginn FA WR. Some nice draft picks in Benjamin and Kuechly and Gettleman makes a bunch of moves after most experts thought that OL was the worst in the NFL.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

uffda udfa
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#29

Sources provide credibility. In fact I don't believe it. I don't think Mike McCarthy is fed up with TTs lack of free agent participation. I have sources that say a lot of things but if I repeated them here it would be irresponsible and if I made up some fantastic headline just to garner hits or whatever it would be doubly irresponsible.

I suspect MMs "fed up" somewhat exaggerated.

Why doesn't it surprise me though that you are loving this. Its more PROOF that you are right, right.

Originally Posted by: sschind

It absolutely is. It isn't? You and the lot of you seem to imply I have some personal issue with guys you seem to love. No. I want to see this team win SB rings not bow out in the playoffs while we have Aaron Rodgers. When he goes and we have less than an MVP QB only then can I relate to you about being okay with not making it to the show but then I'll be on let's find us a guy who can get us there. It should always be about the relentless pursuit of perfection and anything less sucking like Mike Tomlin said of his teams season. No excuses with injuries...just disappointment. That came from the HC and filters to the fans. Here it's we're proud blah blah blah and the focus of the fans becomes that things are just fine. Nope.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

nerdmann
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9 years ago

#30

Panthers aren’t blinking this week, up 34-7 in third quarter

The Panthers managed to get through the third quarter without collapsing.

Must be nice.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

uffda udfa
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#31

Panthers aren’t blinking this week, up 34-7 in third quarter

Must be nice.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Amazing they lost their top WR and get a trip to SB50...We lose ours and post the worst passing O since 1987. I saw guys like Olsen and Ginn tearing it up...Free Agents. Let's role with Richard Rodgers and Davante Adams. I hope they roll those two out for the next 5 years. That'd be great.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Barfarn
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#32

Originally Posted by: sschind

McGinn is mad that Peppers took blame for OT debacle; he wrote about it, and then Capers de-balled McGuinn by saying it was Randall 😂 😂 😂 😂 love it!!! May have even been planned.

Uffda duffda said he was a journalist right? He says sources are not important because he believes it. 😂 😂 😂 Sadly this is the state of journalism today. McGinn doesn't have a legitimate source because MM and Ted Thompson work in perfect sync. Again so many say, we should sign guys but no one ever speaks of who is then lost as a result. MM knows if Ted Thompson signed Cullen Jenkins, there'd have been no comp pick to get Mike Daniels and then one or 2 guys like Jordy Nelson is not resigned to because $$$ went to Jenkins.

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Barfarn
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#33

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Yes a nice mix of vets and young guys, whose quality stud core is HOME GROWN just like Green Bay. Except for trade for TE Olsen [3rd rounder from Bears] all the non-home grown vets are just guys that had to be signed because of draft failures. They’re not frugal with their pics, had only had 16 picks in the last 3 years.

They had to use free agency to get Oher at OT because they traded up to #19 to get a bust at OT Jeff Otah [Giving up a 1st, 2nd and 4th that would have netted Eric Wood, Calais Campbell and Mike McGlynn-2 pro-bowlers and decent guy]. Then they had another opportunity in 2013; but at 108 they drafted OT Kuqubila. On the very next pick Ted Thompson drafted David Baktieri at 109!!! If they hit on Bulaga and Baktieri they would not have needed to sign Oher.

DE Frank Alexander goes down. Would they have traded for Allen if they had draft success with Ealy [2nd], and/or 3rd rounders McClain and Fua or kept their own FA in Greg Hardy?

Would they have signed Tilman (CB) in free agency and picked up Finnegan (CB) and McClain (CB) [who they originally drafted] off the scrap heap if they had successfully D&D’d Tramon Williams, Hayward, Shields, Hyde, Goodson, Randall and Rollins? Would they have signed Harper and Coleman in Free agency if they hit on Burnett and Dix?

Would they have signed Ginn, Cotchery if they didn’t bust out on Joe Adams, Pilaris, Aremti Edwards and or resigned their own (LaFelll)?

You’re castigating Ted Thompson for being a better draft and develop guy that the Carolina front office. And of course we are easily better than Carolina if Rodgers, not Sanchez, is playing QB for us.

So what’s the problem?

uffda udfa
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#34

McGinn is mad that Peppers took blame for OT debacle; he wrote about it, and then Capers de-balled McGuinn by saying it was Randall 😂 😂 😂 😂 love it!!! May have even been planned.

Uffda duffda said he was a journalist right? He says sources are not important because he believes it. 😂 😂 😂 Sadly this is the state of journalism today. McGinn doesn't have a legitimate source because Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson work in perfect sync. Again so many say, we should sign guys but no one ever speaks of who is then lost as a result. Mike McCarthy knows if Ted Thompson signed Cullen Jenkins, there'd have been no comp pick to get Mike Daniels and then one or 2 guys like Jordy Nelson is not resigned to because $$$ went to Jenkins.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn

Irony. Source?

Sources aren't important in the context of you and I will never know who they are. So, we are left to conclude for ourselves if we think that is true, or not. I don't know....but I believe.

You follow the blasting of me with an odd statement that Ted Thompson and MM work in perfect sync. You have no unnamed sources or named ones to base that off of but that is what you believe. I'll give the check on that one to me regarding which belief is based on the more solid ground.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Barfarn
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#35

McGinn is such an opinionated tool-fool. All this bullshyte he talks only one specific: that GB should have singed Mason Foster. The LIAR says Foster beat out a couple of vet starters...THIS IS A BOLD-FACED LIE. Compton and Riley are the starters ahead of Foster, but Riley was injured and inactive. Foster sucks and is much worse than Thomas, Ryan or Palmer. McGuinn sounds like the loud-mouth smarter than Ted Thompson fools that loudly and vociferously babbled and blathered on that keeping Goodson over Rolle was a mistake, because Rolle got 3 INTs. Ya’d think after the loud mouths realized that they were 1000% wrong about Rolle; they’d just take one moment of reflection and say to themselves, “maybe, just maybe, I’m not as smart as TT.”

Ya want some free agents? Okay, but first, go to the fountain of youth; then go play with some unicorns; Oh wait, those things are only imaginary. Just like the esoteric, theoretical meaningless empty bullshyte thoughts and words on the subject offered by the vocal loud-mouth minority. Stop the yappy-lipped bullshyte and provide the name of the FA to sign; the amount we must pay and whose contract gets cut and/or who is not signed it the FA’s place. And talk to his agent and make sure the deal would actually go through. If one can’t get to reality; state your opinions once, maybe twice and if you cant add reality or more insight, then just STFU. Thank you in advance!

Barfarn
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#36

Irony. Source?

Sources aren't important in the context of you and I will never know who they are. So, we are left to conclude for ourselves if we think that is true, or not. I don't know....but I believe.

You follow the blasting of me with an odd statement that Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy work in perfect sync. You have no unnamed sources or named ones to base that off of but that is what you believe. I'll give the check on that one to me regarding which belief is based on the more solid ground.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Chumchum, its not irony, it's Apples and Oranges. You dont need a source to confirm what a person acknowledges publicly. MM has stated at least 20-30x per yr how proud he is about the program and the system in place. So it's the same source that routinely establishes that you shouldn't tell your daddy how to make babies. 😂

Now Gary Bertier, who is your daddy? I'm your daddy, now fix that tie and get on the bus, son.

uffda udfa
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#37

Chumchum, its not irony, it's Apples and Oranges. You dont need a source to confirm what a person acknowledges publicly. Mike McCarthy has stated at least 20-30x per yr how proud he is about the program and the system in place. So it's the same source that routinely establishes that you shouldn't tell your daddy how to make babies. 😂

Now Gary Bertier, who is your daddy? I'm your daddy, now fix that tie and get on the bus, son.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn

Oh my... Are you serious? In another active thread here you said MM was a total liar in public. Now, you're using his lies as validation? Busted. Big time.

You have less solid footing. You can't flip the script. You tried... no sale.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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