Zero2Cool
8 years ago

First half way decent point I've ever seen you make. 😍

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



After 2,565 posts from you, we're all still waiting for just one good thought. Just one!


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Cheesey
8 years ago
I am still amazed at some of the posts on this site.
According to some, it seems that the Packers SUCKED 46 of the last 50 years. After all, they didn't win the Super Bowl during those 46 years.

Now.....if Ted Thompson "sold out" to win the Super Bowl next season, (Which even if he DID sell out, thats NOT a guarentee that they would win it) then what happens after that? The same pople that are constantly moaning here would be complaining because Ted "sold our future for one loust shot at a Super Bowl!" You KNOW that would be the case!
So any way you look at it, in some people's eyes the Packer organization can do no RIGHT.
Look at the many teams that tried to buy their way to a championship. Most of the time, it fails miserably.
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uffda udfa
8 years ago

I am still amazed at some of the posts on this site.
According to some, it seems that the Packers SUCKED 46 of the last 50 years. After all, they didn't win the Super Bowl during those 46 years.

Now.....if Ted Thompson "sold out" to win the Super Bowl next season, (Which even if he DID sell out, thats NOT a guarentee that they would win it) then what happens after that? The same pople that are constantly moaning here would be complaining because Ted "sold our future for one loust shot at a Super Bowl!" You KNOW that would be the case!
So any way you look at it, in some people's eyes the Packer organization can do no RIGHT.
Look at the many teams that tried to buy their way to a championship. Most of the time, it fails miserably.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



You're right. However, there is a balance where you put a bit more focus on NOW vs. 3 years from now. Is anyone going to argue that in Green Bay the focus is as much on 3 years from now as it is on right now? It's good to think about the future but not at expense of what's right in front of you. This org doesn't maximize the now as it should and soon it will be repeated even here when this era ends with one SB appearance. It's always struck me as ironic how so often things that fans just fight and rail against today become the very viewpoints they come to embrace later. I saw it with Brett Favre and we'll see it with this regime. I'll try very hard not to say I told you so.

BTW, I LOVE Triumph the Comic Insult Dog...Robert Smigel is GENIUS!

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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


carule
8 years ago

Now I have to listen to all these morons talk about how "we lost, because of the injuries."

Sick of this team being LESS than the sum of the parts.

Fuck you Mike. Even if there's a miracle come back.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



yep and it probably won't be getting better next year. we have to win on talent alone. almost no help from coaching...
uffda udfa
8 years ago
It amazes me New England has been to 5 straight AFC Championships. Plus, they've been there 10 out of the last 16. So many of our fans celebrate our success and talk of how teams would want to be us. Why would anyone want to be us when you could be New England.

This begs a question...if we have comparable QB's, then why is New England in 5 straight AFC Championships and we have 5 straight playoff exits with ONE NFC Championship visit? Coaching, players, or management? All 3? One or more of them is responsible for us not being like New England as we all know the QB determines so much of your success. Clearly, we're sorely lacking somewhere if not everywhere else.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


Barfarn
8 years ago

It amazes me New England has been to 5 straight AFC Championships. Plus, they've been there 10 out of the last 16. So many of our fans celebrate our success and talk of how teams would want to be us. Why would anyone want to be us when you could be New England.

This begs a question...if we have comparable QB's, then why is New England in 5 straight AFC Championships and we have 5 straight playoff exits with ONE NFC Championship visit? Coaching, players, or management? All 3? One or more of them is responsible for us not being like New England as we all know the QB determines so much of your success. Clearly, we're sorely lacking somewhere if not everywhere else.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Is this why you rooted for GB to be blown out by Washington?

Actually Packerfans show their greatest class and grace in the way they take defeat and in supporting their team even when 4-12; this is what others see as special in a packer fan, it is what it is about.

Also, several others here have won many things in real life; our self-worths dont solely depend on the Packers winning. Yeah, we all got bumbed-out on Saturday night, but not to the point of beating the dog. BTW, I haven't heard your dog bark in a few days. I guess if I never won anything in life, maybe my self-worth would be more dependent on the Packers winning, not that inveterately whining about it would somehow cause them to win. And I'd have mixed feelings being fan of a winning belicheater; what is the point of winning if you gotta cheat to do it.

And now when you can find no one else to argue with you turn to arguing against your own arguments. "Comparable QBs?"

The difference of the 2 teams comes down to one thing and it is very simple and very obvious: CONSISTENT quality QB play in playoffs. NE has a consistent clutch team-driven QB making $7M less allowing for 1-2-3 other good players on the team. Switch the QBs and GB has 2-3 SB titles and maybe and additional 1-2 SB loses. Simple!
uffda udfa
8 years ago

Is this why you rooted for GB to be blown out by Washington?

Actually Packerfans show their greatest class and grace in the way they take defeat and in supporting their team even when 4-12; this is what others see as special in a packer fan, it is what it is about.

Also, several others here have won many things in real life; our self-worths dont solely depend on the Packers winning. Yeah, we all got bumbed-out on Saturday night, but not to the point of beating the dog. BTW, I haven't heard your dog bark in a few days. I guess if I never won anything in life, maybe my self-worth would be more dependent on the Packers winning, not that inveterately whining about it would somehow cause them to win. And I'd have mixed feelings being fan of a winning belicheater; what is the point of winning if you gotta cheat to do it.

And now when you can find no one else to argue with you turn to arguing against your own arguments. "Comparable QBs?"

The difference of the 2 teams comes down to one thing and it is very simple and very obvious: CONSISTENT quality QB play in playoffs. NE has a consistent clutch team-driven QB making $7M less allowing for 1-2-3 other good players on the team. Switch the QBs and GB has 2-3 SB titles and maybe and additional 1-2 SB loses. Simple!

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



Ha ha! I said at Packersnotes that I would desire to be blown out at Washington if it would effect real change. I didn't want to win or narrowly lose to keep the status quo. You know I feel change is absolutely 100% necessary for this team to be back in the show so, yes, I would gladly accept a playoff loss that was going to come anyway to get some tangible progress made toward the goal of actually winning instead of all this "fun" playoffs wheel spinning.

Double ha ha on the self worth. I derive no self worth and have won more than my fair share of things and tasted some great highs (without drugs) personally. As a competitor who sold out completely to win at anything he ever did it's what I expect to see in guys who are paid millions to play a child's game. That isn't really too much to ask. Your allegations are the reverse of the intention.

I'll agree with you on the money issue...that is very very important. I used to point that out that SF and SEA would fall back to the pack when they had to pay their QB like we did. Not fully sure I believe in the Brady vs. Rodgers thing. Would have to go really spend some time looking. New England is a better team all around and organization... not so sure it's just the QB as you allege.

One thing you and I seem to have kinship on is our disdain for diva QB's. I couldn't stand Brett for that and am starting to feel the same toward Aaron.


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Cheesey
8 years ago

It amazes me New England has been to 5 straight AFC Championships. Plus, they've been there 10 out of the last 16. So many of our fans celebrate our success and talk of how teams would want to be us. Why would anyone want to be us when you could be New England.

This begs a question...if we have comparable QB's, then why is New England in 5 straight AFC Championships and we have 5 straight playoff exits with ONE NFC Championship visit? Coaching, players, or management? All 3? One or more of them is responsible for us not being like New England as we all know the QB determines so much of your success. Clearly, we're sorely lacking somewhere if not everywhere else.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



How many Super Bowls have the Patriots won in the last 10 years? ONE. The same as Green Bay. And the Packers didn't cheat to do so.
If you judge the Patriots the same as you do the Packers, then New England is a terrible failure.
Just making it to championship games but not winning them is still losing, right?
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uffda udfa
8 years ago
Here's something we should see from our coach, but we don't. Fans (most) follow the conditioning of the leaders of the org they follow. Too bad we can't get our HC to say something like Mike Tomlin said:

“I’m disappointed,” Tomlin said. “That’s just an honest answer. I think we all are. We appreciate the support that we get from others, the acknowledgment of the fight and all of that. But, we go into the journey with that understanding, that it’s going to be difficult, that’s it’s going to be a fight, that a fight is going to be required. We set out to be world champion. That was our goal. We meant it. It’s not us this year, so there’s disappointment.”

--- Hmmm. He's not "proud" even though Ben was hurt and Antonio Brown and, LeVeon, and DeAngleo were out? No excuses. He realizes the Steelers season was a failure. When will our HC and fans realize the same thing here?

If Mike McCarthy is truly Pittsburgh tough he sure doesn't act it. Our HC and our fans would do well to emulate Mike Tomlin and not the boobs running our org who are satisfied with losing and proud lost in those tiers of happiness.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


buckeyepackfan
8 years ago

I am still amazed at some of the posts on this site.
According to some, it seems that the Packers SUCKED 46 of the last 50 years. After all, they didn't win the Super Bowl during those 46 years.

Now.....if Ted Thompson "sold out" to win the Super Bowl next season, (Which even if he DID sell out, thats NOT a guarentee that they would win it) then what happens after that? The same pople that are constantly moaning here would be complaining because Ted "sold our future for one loust shot at a Super Bowl!" You KNOW that would be the case!
So any way you look at it, in some people's eyes the Packer organization can do no RIGHT.
Look at the many teams that tried to buy their way to a championship. Most of the time, it fails miserably.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Don't waste your sensible posts and valuable time on Uffda Cheesey.

Just not worth it.
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
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