MassPackersFan
16 years ago
According to Mike & Mike, Brett Favre is retiring. This time fo' real.
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wils0646
16 years ago
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3898942 

Without the tearful public ceremony that accompanied his retirement announcement from the Green Bay Packers just 11 months ago, quarterback Brett Favre has instructed agent Bus Cook to inform the New York Jets today that he plans to retire....



"They sent me to New York because they didn't play the Jets, they were 4-12, so they didn't have to play me, they knew we had very little chance of making the playoffs and they knew it was not likely that we'd have a better year than they did,'' Favre told Werder. "I was aware of all of that and more than up to the challenge because they felt they were shipping me off to Siberia and they'd never hear from me again. So was I coming back to play because I loved the game or to prove them wrong? Probably a little bit of both.

"Maybe initially I came back for the wrong reasons,'' Favre says now. "It was like, "OK, they don't want me to play, then I'll play somewhere else and show them I can still play.''

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longtimefan
16 years ago
according to sources, he felt his body was beat up
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16 years ago
Without the tearful public ceremony that accompanied his retirement announcement from the Green Bay Packers just 11 months ago, quarterback Brett Favre has instructed agent Bus Cook to inform the New York Jets Wednesday that he plans to retire.

In an e-mail to ESPN's Ed Werder, Favre indicated he had no regrets about finishing his career with the Jets rather than with the Green Bay Packers franchise he represented for his previous 16 NFL seasons. He specifically praised Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum, team owner Woody Johnson and fired coach Eric Mangini -- and even mentioned Thomas Jones and Kerry Rhodes, both of whom were publicly critical of Favre after the team's collapse in the final month of the season prevented the Jets from making the playoffs.


My time with the Jets was short, but I'm honored to be given that chance.


-- Brett Favre

"Mike and Woody, as well as the entire organization, have been nothing short of outstanding,'' Favre said in the e-mail. "My teammates -- Thomas and Kerry included -- were a pleasure to play with. Eric [Mangini] could not have been any better. I enjoyed playing for him. My time with the Jets was short, but I'm honored to be given that chance.''
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16 years ago
Brett.. You accomplished your mission.. that you could still play at a high level..

Wish you nothing but the best in retirement.

I think he has learned his lesson and will truly hang them up... maybe now the healing can begin on all sides of the fences.
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Zero2Cool
16 years ago
Kind of weird. I'm going to miss him even though I hated seeing him in that uniform. I hope he gets a spot on TV or something.
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tromadz
16 years ago

Brett.. You accomplished your mission.. that you could still play at a high level..

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Really? REALLY?

I'm not going to make this a thing. I'll just say I hope he finds happiness in his new retirement.

GB will be fine, but what are the Jets gonna do?
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wils0646
16 years ago

I think he has learned his lesson and will truly hang them up... maybe now the healing can begin on all sides of the fences.

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I hope so too. I don't like the parting shots back at our organization.
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Brett.. You accomplished your mission.. that you could still play at a high level..

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Really? REALLY?

I'm not going to make this a thing. I'll just say I hope he finds happiness in his new retirement.

GB will be fine, but what are the Jets gonna do?

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Hmmm one could argue that he played at a MVP consideration level through the first half of the season.

Additionally, one could, lets say, overlook an injury in the final weeks and say he completely blew it.

The basic truth is he is an aging player that for a duration can still play the game like he used to, but time takes its toll. And he is too stubborn to change or modify his game to adjust, like maybe allowing himself to be pulled from games where the outcome is know well before the final tick.
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16 years ago
He will be back in a couple of months.
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MassPackersFan
16 years ago

I think he has learned his lesson and will truly hang them up... maybe now the healing can begin on all sides of the fences.

"wils0646" wrote:



I hope so too. I don't like the parting shots back at our organization.

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I wasn't too happy with that either. It just seems odd in a profession where teams and players part ways all the time.
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Trippster
16 years ago
I think his big issue is his perception of the packers being dishonest with him. As in any business, if you feel your bosses are not being upfront with you there are bound to be hard feelings.

I don't see him being too involved with the Pack until Thompson is elsewhere. that seems to be his main issue.
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I think he has learned his lesson and will truly hang them up... maybe now the healing can begin on all sides of the fences.

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I hope so too. I don't like the parting shots back at our organization.

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I wasn't too happy with that either. It just seems odd in a profession where teams and players part ways all the time.

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Did he really take shots at the Packers or Ted himself?

The way I read it.. more so he has deep seeded anger at Thompson..

It was discussed at great length last preseason.. but basically, Thompson was the first GM in the Brett days that didn't cater to Brett.. there were no sit downs on Thursday nights to discuss the team like Wolf and Holmgren did.. no checking with Brett on moves like Sherman did.

Should Brett ever gotten that type of treatment, no, but those are the sins of our past in Green Bay. And somebody needed to correct that oversight.. Ted did just that and it started the friction. Add in some piss poor communication within the organization and you have conflict deeper than the grand canyon.

Hurting the fans and teammates of the franchise wasn't the target.. it was just caught up in the wash. IMO.
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packfaninbucland
16 years ago
This quote from a previous interview:

"The only thing I worried about was winning,'' he said. "There was a time in my career where I paid more attention to individual stats, but in the last couple of years the most important thing was winning and personal accomplishments. In the end, that's what matters most. Was I pissed at Green Bay? Sure. But I wasn't pissed at their players. I did keep up with the wins and losses. Sure, it was hard not to do that. I didn't wish them bad, but I wished us better.''

I know that this is another "emotional" outburst from Favre but it strikes me odd that he states that, only in the last couple of years was winning more important than personal accomplishments. Funny, he used to always say that he could care less about any of his stats or personal accomplishments. Well, which is it.

Good luck to you Brett. I do appreciate the magnificent career you had with the Pack. I just can't help but feel that, in the last few years, you have tarnished your legacy. I suppose the Packers organization did as well.
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16 years ago
Javon Walker, Ahman Green, Brett Favre.....in EVERY instance Ted Thompson was crucified for these decisions by a very vocal presence amongst Packer fandom....and in each case, hindsight has proven him correct each and every time.

Say what you will about his public persona, but the guy knows when to cut bait with aging players in decline.
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16 years ago
I dont expect Brett to be back in Green Bay any time soon or anytime with Ted Thompson in the front office. The stuff he said about what Ted Thompson did was the truth you can't deny that. Ship him to the Jets because they were a bad team and the Packers won't play them. Best of Luck Brett lets go hunting lol.

Maybe we can retire his jersey in about 3 years.
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I dont expect Brett to be back in Green Bay any time soon or anytime with Ted Thompson in the front office. The stuff he said about what Ted Thompson did was the truth you can't deny that. Ship him to the Jets because they were a bad team and the Packers won't play them. Best of Luck Brett lets go hunting lol.

Maybe we can retire his jersey in about 3 years.

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Now wait a freaking minute.. Brett agreed to be traded to the Jets at that point.. because of his desire to play.

Brett is pissed at Ted Thompson.. to this day. That IMO, is the reason MM and Brett decided to part company last fall.. can you imagine the team turmoil with Brett and Ted at each other for the entire year.

That is a two way street.

This whole Jets comment is sour grapes.. Brett wanted his freedom so that he could hand pick a team of his choice to make Ted pay. That isn't smart business if your are running the Packers, Ted or not.

Sorry, Brett got cut out of the loop in Green Bay, didn't have the pull with management he once had and that didn't sit well with him.. it snowballed from there.
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longtimefan
16 years ago

I dont expect Brett to be back in Green Bay any time soon or anytime with Ted Thompson in the front office. The stuff he said about what Ted Thompson did was the truth you can't deny that. Ship him to the Jets because they were a bad team and the Packers won't play them. Best of Luck Brett lets go hunting lol.

Maybe we can retire his jersey in about 3 years.

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Johny U was traded to a team not in the same division

Joe M was traded to a team not in the same division

Its SMART business.
digsthepack
16 years ago
And what, dhazer...TT should ship him to someone within the division/conference where he may come back to bite the Packers??

There is some sound logic!!

Dude became a bitch, dude got shipped out...pretty simple when you consider even his most recent words indicate that he believed himself bigger than the Green Bay Packers.
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longtimefan
16 years ago

I dont expect Brett to be back in Green Bay any time soon or anytime with Ted Thompson in the front office. The stuff he said about what Ted Thompson did was the truth you can't deny that. Ship him to the Jets because they were a bad team and the Packers won't play them. Best of Luck Brett lets go hunting lol.

Maybe we can retire his jersey in about 3 years.

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Now wait a freaking minute.. Brett agreed to be traded to the Jets at that point.. because of his desire to play.

Brett is pissed at Ted Thompson.. to this day. That IMO, is the reason Mike McCarthy and Brett decided to part company last fall.. can you imagine the team turmoil with Brett and Ted at each other for the entire year.

That is a two way street.

This whole Jets comment is sour grapes.. Brett wanted his freedom so that he could hand pick a team of his choice to make Ted pay. That isn't smart business if your are running the Packers, Ted or not.

Sorry, Brett got cut out of the loop in Green Bay, didn't have the pull with management he once had and that didn't sit well with him.. it snowballed from there.

"dhazer" wrote:



LOL Pack!! we both said it was smart business

But what your saying is 100% right..

He could have said no..He had to agree to it....
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