luigis
8 years ago

Yes the opponent matters. That's never been in dispute. The above is not accurate either.

Detroit (2x), Dallas, Oakland (and Chicago as you said) had defenses ranging from mediocre to bad (16th in points and 14th in yards or worse). That's half the games after the bye.

By neither points nor yards have we played all three top defenses at any point this season, never mind after the bye. On points, Seattle and Kansas City were 1 and 3. We played both before the bye.

This past week was the first time the offense showed anything close to what we expect since the first few weeks of the season, regardless of the quality of opponent. This time around, they did it against a weak, albeit opportunistic, defense. Let's see if they can do it again against one of the NFL's best.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



Sorry I should have clarified my metric.
I use DVOA from football outsiders to measure team efficiency, we can argue about tidbits but is a LOT better than just points or yards allowed and all those crappy stats.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef 

The top 3 defenses are : Denver, Carolina and Arizona. We played all 3 of them after the bye.


Luis
RaiderPride
8 years ago
"Left Tackle-

Even if we do not get David Bakhtiari back, we should all feel more comfortable having JC Tretter manning left tackle than Don Barclay who let people by him so efficiently turnstiles were worried about being replaced by cardboard cutouts of his likeness."

Nice.

Keep writing like that, and Green Bay Radio stations will start calling "Packers Home" for 30 second sound bites, then eventually pre game analysis. Then More.


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sschind
8 years ago

Really don't get why people don't have any faith in our defense. They've been doing phenomenal this season, even with how terrible the offense has been. They're not dominating but they're solid and barring the occasional breakdown, make teams fight tooth and nail to get into the red zone. Turnover generation has been a disappointment, however.

If our offense plays like they did last week after the 1st quarter, this team has a very real shot to win it. If they can't put up more than 24 points, we're in trouble though. I can't see our defense giving up more than 24.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



I agree with you that our defense can keep us in this game but I think there are two main reasons why people don't have faith in them.1, the Cardinals have a very potent offense with good speed. There's not much to say about that. 2, we do seem to have a propensity for giving up big gains at inopportune times. Now on that second point we do have times where we come up with big plays too but I think when we give up a first down on 3rd and 15 from their own 15 people remember that even though we force a punt later on the drive after stuffing a 3rd and 1 run. Big plays have a tendency to stand out and that's what fans remember.



DakotaT
8 years ago
Nobody is giving the Packers a chance to win this game. So i guess all that remains is for the Packers to give all the reporters out there a big shitburger to eat.
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PackerTraxx
8 years ago
One thing I'm pretty sure of...I'm pretty sure Arizona is happy they don't have to come to Lambeau this Sunday!
Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?
Zero2Cool
8 years ago
The game was there for the Packers and that's what I was saying with this rambling opening post. Good game.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

The game was there for the Packers and that's what I was saying with this rambling opening post. Good game.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yep.

It was there for the taking.
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bboystyle (1h) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (1h) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (1h) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (2h) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (2h) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (2h) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
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Zero2Cool (3h) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
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Zero2Cool (4h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (4h) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (4h) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
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Zero2Cool (5h) : dammit. 3:25pm
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beast (7h) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
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Zero2Cool (8h) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (8h) : ok I stand corrected
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Zero2Cool (8h) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (8h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
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Zero2Cool (8h) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (8h) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
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Zero2Cool (8h) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
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packerfanoutwest (8h) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't
Zero2Cool (8h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.
Zero2Cool (8h) : Yes, if they win one of three, they are lock. If they lose out, they can be eliminated.
packerfanoutwest (8h) : as I just said,,gtheyh are in no matter what
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