DakotaT
8 years ago

Technically, you are both *youngsters.*

Originally Posted by: Wade 



Well, your generation is a joke too, but we've been over that many, many times. ๐Ÿ˜
UserPostedImage
macbob
8 years ago


I hear Lovie is available now and he is a way better head coach than MM.

Originally Posted by: Yerko 



Good lord. You needed to put some kind of smiley face at the end of that comment.

The Bares fans in my office STILL complain about Lovie Smith. They would be celebrating if the Packers selected him as head coach.

macbob
8 years ago

Why do people always bring up Packers teams of the past that didn't have HOF qb's, as if that is somehow a good comparison to today's team? Those teams stunk because they had no quarterback, not because the coaching was bad. When you have a quarterback like Rodgers your expectations better be pretty stinking high. The fact is we've been lucky as hell to have Favre and Rodgers back to back over a 20 year period and all we have to show for it 2 SBs. The Giants have done the same with Eli frickin Manning

How many coaches are going to have bad success with a quarterback like Rodgers at the helm?
Answer: Hardly any

Originally Posted by: jlyons043 



I agree with you 100% on the disappointment in only wining 2 SBs in the more than 20 years we enjoyed Favre and Rodgers (so far).

But I disagree on your premise that having a good QB = SB wins and if you don't get SB wins the coaches stink. There are a LOT of factors that go into winning a SB, not just QBs and coaches.

How old are you? Just wondering. Having suffered through the 70s and 80s, we had some good quarterbacks during that period (Lynn Dickey, Don Majkowski, for example), and we were lucky if we made it to the playoffs.
jlyons043
8 years ago

I agree with you 100% on the disappointment in only wining 2 SBs in the more than 20 years we enjoyed Favre and Rodgers (so far).

But I disagree on your premise that having a good QB = SB wins and if you don't get SB wins the coaches stink. There are a LOT of factors that go into winning a SB, not just QBs and coaches.

How old are you? Just wondering. Having suffered through the 70s and 80s, we had some good quarterbacks during that period (Lynn Dickey, Don Majkowski, for example), and we were lucky if we made it to the playoffs.

Originally Posted by: macbob 



I didn't mean to come off as good QB automatically = SB wins, they sure as hell make it way easier. But right after we won the SB in 2010 if someone came up to you and asked "Hey 5 years from now how many SB appearances and wins do you think this Green bay Team will have?" Would your honest answer have been zero?

Plus, Dickey and Majkowski aren't Aaron Rodgers good
macbob
8 years ago

I didn't mean to come off as good QB automatically = SB wins, they sure as hell make it way easier. But right after we won the SB in 2010 if someone came up to you and asked "Hey 5 years from now how many SB appearances and wins do you think this Green bay Team will have?" Would your honest answer have been zero?

Plus, Dickey and Majkowski aren't Aaron Rodgers good

Originally Posted by: jlyons043 



Nobody is Aaron Rodgers good. But they were very good QBs.

I feel that McCarthy cost us a SB appearance and a likely SB win last year.

IMO, McCarthy is a good coach, not a great coach. He put us in position to win the NFC Championship last year in a game that a lot of people here were saying that Seattle was going to beat us like a drum. But then he went and blew it with piss-poor game management at the end that allowed Seattle back in it. He took his foot off the peddle and tried to run out the clock WAY too early, when we were up by only 12 points. Set us up for the on-field execution failures ending.

And that's something I'm having trouble letting go of. He's a good coach, but to me he's forever going to be the coach who gave away the SB.



macbob
8 years ago

Well, your generation is a joke too, but we've been over that many, many times. ๐Ÿ˜

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



All I'll say about that is:

As a kid growing up back in the 60s, it sure was fun watching the Lombardi-era Packers...

[bdance] ๐Ÿ˜
jlyons043
8 years ago

Nobody is Aaron Rodgers good. But they were very good QBs.

I feel that McCarthy cost us a SB appearance and a likely SB win last year.

IMO, McCarthy is a good coach, not a great coach. He put us in position to win the NFC Championship last year in a game that a lot of people here were saying that Seattle was going to beat us like a drum. But then he went and blew it with piss-poor game management at the end that allowed Seattle back in it. He took his foot off the peddle and tried to run out the clock WAY too early, when we were up by only 12 points. Set us up for the on-field execution failures ending.

And that's something I'm having trouble letting go of. He's a good coach, but to me he's forever going to be the coach who gave away the SB.



Originally Posted by: macbob 



I agree with you on most of that. I still think he's a decent coach, but his arrow is definitely pointing down for me right now. Between last years meltdown and then this years inexplicably terrible offense, yes I know Jordy went down but still, the Cowboys had Kellen Moore playing QB for crying out loud & they still fielded a better offense. He hasn't adjusted to Nelson's absence & that will always be my biggest complaint with McCarthy. He can't adapt
TheKanataThrilla
8 years ago

I agree with you on most of that. I still think he's a decent coach, but his arrow is definitely pointing down for me right now. Between last years meltdown and then this years inexplicably terrible offense, yes I know Jordy went down but still, the Cowboys had Kellen Moore playing QB for crying out loud & they still fielded a better offense. He hasn't adjusted to Nelson's absence & that will always be my biggest complaint with McCarthy. He can't adapt

Originally Posted by: jlyons043 



I am upset that McCarthy could not adapt the offense with Jordy gone, but man the WRs and TE corps have been blah. Can we blame Ted Thompson for not making a trade or a move when it was obvious we needed help? I am thinking we probably could have got Jennings for a small price from Miami when they started tanking. Why is it teams like New England and Denver go out try and make a move to better the team and put themselves over the top. I don't know that Ted didn't try anything, but history tells me he doesn't Band-Aid with a known commodity when players go down.
DakotaT
8 years ago

I am upset that McCarthy could not adapt the offense with Jordy gone, but man the WRs and TE corps have been blah. Can we blame Ted Thompson for not making a trade or a move when it was obvious we needed help? I am thinking we probably could have got Jennings for a small price from Miami when they started tanking. Why is it teams like New England and Denver go out try and make a move to better the team and put themselves over the top. I don't know that Ted didn't try anything, but history tells me he doesn't Band-Aid with a known commodity when players go down.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Yes we can, and should blame Ted Thompson. What good are all those picks he misses on, when the team you have on the field is completely struggling? Ted is so worried about getting fucked over on a trade, that he completely blows the present.
UserPostedImage
DarkaneRules
8 years ago
Still loving this latest draft class though. It's a shame Ty got hurt. ๐Ÿ˜ž
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
Fan Shout
beast (2h) : He's a review guy
Zero2Cool (2h) : Jordy Nelson is still in the NFL.
Zero2Cool (11-Nov) : Ok, will do.
wpr (11-Nov) : Kevin, donate it to a local food pantry or whatever she wants to do with it. Thanks
wpr (11-Nov) : Kevin,
Zero2Cool (11-Nov) : Wayne, got your girl scout order.
dfosterf (11-Nov) : I believe Zero was being sarcastic
dfosterf (11-Nov) : Due to that rookie kicker Jake Bates that Zero said "he didn't want anyway". 58 yarder to tie the game, 52 yarder to win it. In fairness,
Mucky Tundra (11-Nov) : Lions escape with a win
Mucky Tundra (11-Nov) : and now Goff looking better
Mucky Tundra (11-Nov) : Goff with ANOTHER INT
Mucky Tundra (11-Nov) : and now Stroud throwing INTs
Mucky Tundra (11-Nov) : Goff having an ATROCIOUS game
wpr (11-Nov) : Happy birthday Corps. Ever faithful. Thanks dfosterf.
Mucky Tundra (10-Nov) : stiff armed by Baker Mayfield for about 5-7 yards and still managed to get a pass off
Mucky Tundra (10-Nov) : Nick Bosa
wpr (8-Nov) : Jets are Packers (L)East
Zero2Cool (8-Nov) : Jets released K Riley Patterson and signed K Anders Carlson to the practice squad.
wpr (8-Nov) : Thanks guys
Mucky Tundra (7-Nov) : Happy Birthday wpr!
Zero2Cool (7-Nov) : Anders Carlson ... released by 49ers
dfosterf (7-Nov) : Happy Birthday!๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š
wpr (7-Nov) : Thanks Kevin.
Zero2Cool (7-Nov) : Happy Birthday, Wayne! ๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ‚๐Ÿฅณ
beast (7-Nov) : Edge Rushers is the same... it's not the 4-3 vs 3-4 change, it's the Hafley's version of the 4-3... as all 32 teams are actually 4-2
Zero2Cool (6-Nov) : OLB to DE and player requests trade. Yet folks say they are same.
beast (5-Nov) : In other news, the Green Bay Packers have signed Zero2Cool to update their website ๐Ÿ˜‹ jk
beast (5-Nov) : Might just re-sign the kicker we got
beast (5-Nov) : Are there any kickers worth drafting next year?
Zero2Cool (5-Nov) : Preston Smith for Malik Willis
Mucky Tundra (5-Nov) : Getting a 7th rounder from the Stillers
Zero2Cool (5-Nov) : At least we get 7th round pick now!! HELLO NEW KICKER
Mucky Tundra (5-Nov) : Steelers getting a premier lockdown corner!
Zero2Cool (5-Nov) : Packers are trading edge rusher Preston Smith to the Pittsburgh Steelers, per sources.
Mucky Tundra (5-Nov) : Preston Smith traded to the Steelers!!!!
Zero2Cool (5-Nov) : CB Marshon Lattimore to Commanders
Zero2Cool (5-Nov) : Bears are sending RB Khalil Herbert to the Bengals, per sources.
Zero2Cool (5-Nov) : ZaDarius Smith continues his "north" tour.
Zero2Cool (5-Nov) : Let the Chiefs trade a 5th for him
Zero2Cool (5-Nov) : Nearing 30, large contract, nope.
Martha Careful (5-Nov) : any interest in Marshon Lattimore?
Zero2Cool (4-Nov) : What does NFL do if they're over cap?
Mucky Tundra (4-Nov) : They've been able to constantly push it out through extensions, void years etc but they're in the hole by 72 million next year I believe
hardrocker950 (4-Nov) : Seems the Saints are always in cap hell
Mucky Tundra (4-Nov) : Saints HC job is not an envious one; gonna be in cap hell for 3 years
Mucky Tundra (4-Nov) : Dennis Allen has now been fired twice mid-season with Derek Carr as his starting QB
Zero2Cool (4-Nov) : Kuhn let go
beast (4-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers would have any interest in Z. Smith, probably not
Zero2Cool (4-Nov) : Shefter says Browns and Lions will figure out how to get a deal done for Za'Darius Smith..
Zero2Cool (4-Nov) : Packers are more likely to have 1,000 yard rusher than 4,000 yard passer
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
2h / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

11-Nov / Around The NFL / beast

11-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

11-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

9-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / joepacker

8-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

6-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

6-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

5-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

5-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

5-Nov / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

5-Nov / GameDay Threads / Cheesey

5-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

5-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

Headlines
Copyright ยฉ 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.comโ„ข. All Rights Reserved.