Zero2Cool
8 years ago
We have had a lot of discussion about needing a threat at the tight end position. When the Packers had a threat at tight end, Jermichael Finely, these same folks bitched that Finley wasn't putting up gaudy statistics and didn't seem to realize how valuable he was to the offense.

Look no further than the Patriots Rob Gronkowski to understand the value of a great tight end opening opportunities for an offense. Patriots have a who-the-hell-is-who group of receivers and the key to their success is the presence of Gronkowski. Finley, while no where near the level of Gronkowski, did the same thing for the Packers -- more talented -- receivers of Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones and Jordy Nelson.

I'm not trying to shame those who bitched about Finley, rather, credit them for realizing how valuable Finley was and how the Packers need someone of his caliber at tight end once again.

Speaking of shame, I was one of the blowhards who was duped by Richard Rodgers late season success and felt he would progress from year one to year two.

The next threat at tight end is not on the Packers roster at the moment. Do the Packers target one of the guys entering free agency or do you have a draft prospect that you feel would be a good fit?

Some 2016 Tight End Free Agents (under 30)
[list]
  • Jermaine Gresham
  • Darren Fells
  • Chase Coffman
  • Bear Pascoe
  • Logan Paulsen
  • Coby Fleener
  • John Phillips
  • Tony Moeaki
  • Anthony McCoy
  • [*]Richard Gordon [/list]
    UserPostedImage
    PackFanWithTwins
    8 years ago
    when you have a Gronk, you can do things you can't do with 90% of the other TE in the league. When you have a Megatron, you can do things you can't do with 90% of the other WR in the league. When you have Rodgers or Brady you can do things you can't do with 90% of the other QBs.

    Problem is, there is only one Gronk, and only a couple TE that even compare to him active in the League. The problem I see is not our TEs. It is the way they are being utilized. What percentage of the passes you see our TEs catching over the last couple years have been them releasing into the flat catching a short dump off from a Rodgers rollout. And every time there is a defender right there to make the hit, and the sideline right there if they break the tackle. there is nothing overly special about any of those TEs listed and if they were put in the same situations our TEs are, I would expect pretty much the same result. Look what happened to Graham when he was utilized poorly.

    Chumura was nothing special as far as talent. But he was utilized well. We don't utilize R.Rodgers or Quarless well. I look at the patterns that opponents use with their TEs against our defense and seldom do I see us trying the same things against other teams. And it is apparent that other defenses have seen this as well because they are cheating their coverages towards McCarthy's trends.

    The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
    millertime
    8 years ago
    I believe Dwayne Allen is a FA too. He is young and can block and stretch the field. Fleener is basically a WR.
    Zero2Cool
    8 years ago
    Well.

    The hell do I know??




    UserPostedImage
    PackFanWithTwins
    8 years ago
    Well I don't believe losing Graham has anything to do with Wilson's or the Seahawks level of play. The way the rest of the receivers have kicked in, I definitely wouldn't want to face them with Graham also.
    The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
    8 years ago

    Well.

    The hell do I know??



    Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



    That has more to do with the offensive line protecting Wilson now
    UserPostedImage
    voiceofreason
    8 years ago
    I agree that we could use an upgrade at TE. But if you expect Gronk like production, it ain't gonna happen.
    blank
    TheKanataThrilla
    8 years ago
    The thing with Gronk is Brady will throw a ball in a place where he knows it is a risk, but Gronk will win the battle for the ball every time or it will be incomplete. We have no player WR or TE that Rodgers trusts to do that with.
    TheKanataThrilla
    8 years ago
    that was suppose to be an edit.
    PackFanWithTwins
    8 years ago

    The thing with Gronk is Brady will throw a ball in a position where he knows it is a risk, but Gronk will win the battle for the ball every time or it will be incomplete. We have no player WR or TE that Rodgers trusts to do that with.

    Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



    It isn't just Brady and Gronk. It is most good QBs, all of them we were throwing to guys who were covered as well as our defense covers their guys most of the time. Over the last couple years, Rodgers has gotten away from it. I think he got use to looking and if they were not really open he would move on and if all else failed, he would scramble and one of the receivers would come open. He has don't it a few times with Jones this year and with cobb but not like he should.
    The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
    Fan Shout
    Zero2Cool (8h) : At the game now. Kampman and Cullen Jenkins are here.
    buckeyepackfan (8h) : Happy Thanksgiving Packer Fans! Gonna celebrate with some grilled Dolphin later!
    buckeyepackfan (9h) : Inactive 23 CB Jaire Alexander 56 LB Edgerrin Cooper 62 OL Jacob Monk 87 WR Romeo Doubs
    dhazer (9h) : Just a talking point, do we try and trade Jaire next year to get out from the contract as he can't stay healthy
    Zero2Cool (10h) : Happy Thanksgiving! About to head to game.
    wpr (10h) : Happy Thanksgiving
    Martha Careful (21h) : Happy Thanksgiving Everybody...Go Packers!!!
    Zero2Cool (28-Nov) : That is what a lot of people seem to think. Even though when he was on Giants, he was trash.
    Martha Careful (27-Nov) : Brilliant move by Vikings!!! The signing provide great leverage in Darnold negotiations
    Mucky Tundra (27-Nov) : Boo!
    Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Packers have ruled out Jaire Alexander, Edgerrin Cooper, and Romeo Doubs for Thursday's game against the Dolphins.
    Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Daniel Jones joins Vikings
    Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Tomorrow high 32° and low 19°
    beast (27-Nov) : Thanks Mucky!
    Mucky Tundra (27-Nov) : beast, forecast is looking like 27-28 degrees at kickoff, slight chance of snow flurries
    Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Oh? It wasn't on the injury report. That sucks, but it's what is best.
    packerfanoutwest (26-Nov) : Doubs is out due to concussion
    beast (26-Nov) : What does the weather look like?
    Martha Careful (26-Nov) : You can wear long-johns mittens and a hat. We want Hill and their other skill guys FROZEN
    Zero2Cool (26-Nov) : I'm not sure I hope for that. I'll be at the game.
    Martha Careful (25-Nov) : I hope it is colder than a well-diggers ass on Thanksgiving night.
    Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : doubt he wants to face the speedsters
    beast (25-Nov) : Dolphins offense can be explosive... I wonder if we'll have Alexander back
    Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : No Doubs could be issue Thursday
    Mucky Tundra (25-Nov) : Bears. Santos. Blocked FG
    Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Bears. Vikings. OT
    Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Thems the breaks I guess
    Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Two players out and Williams had an injury designation this week but Oladapo is a healthy scratch
    Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Packers inactives vs 49ers: • CB Jaire Alexander • S Kitan Oladapo • LB Edgerrin Cooper • OL Jacob Monk
    TheKanataThrilla (24-Nov) : Aaron Jones with a costly red zone fumble
    Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : When we trade Malik for a 1st rounder, we'll need a new QB2.
    packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : Report: Aaron Rodgers wants to play in 2025, but not for the Jets
    beast (23-Nov) : That's what I told the Police officer about my speed when he pulled me over
    packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : NFL told Bears that Packers’ blocked field goal was legal
    packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : 49ers are underdogs at Packers, ending streak of 36 straight games as favorites
    Zero2Cool (22-Nov) : 49ers might be down their QB, DL, TE and LT?
    packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : Jaire Alexander says he has a torn PCL
    Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Even with the context it's ... what?
    Mucky Tundra (20-Nov) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”
    beast (20-Nov) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout
    beast (20-Nov) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL
    Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.
    Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.
    beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach
    Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?
    beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections
    Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : The Jets fired Joe Douglas, per sources
    packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Jets are a mess......
    Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Pretty sure Jets fired their scouting staff and just pluck former Packers.
    Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Jets sign Anders Carlson to their 53.
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2024 Packers Schedule
    Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
    Eagles
    Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
    COLTS
    Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
    Titans
    Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
    Rams
    Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
    CARDINALS
    Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
    TEXANS
    Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Jaguars
    Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
    Bears
    Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
    49ERS
    Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
    DOLPHINS
    Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
    Seahawks
    Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
    SAINTS
    Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
    Vikings
    Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
    BEARS
    Recent Topics
    4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / civic

    27-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    27-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    26-Nov / Featured Content / Martha Careful

    26-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    25-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    25-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

    24-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

    24-Nov / GameDay Threads / Zero2Cool

    23-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

    23-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.