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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
I don't think WR is a priority, I would look at the Oline first. As long as there is no indication that Jordy will not be back. I would keep Jones for another year also, or at least until he gets beat out through competition. The difference in having Jones as #1 or #2, compared to #3 or #4 is the difference between a good WR corp and a not so good one.
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musccy
9 years ago

I don't think WR is a priority, I would look at the Oline first. As long as there is no indication that Jordy will not be back. I would keep Jones for another year also, or at least until he gets beat out through competition. The difference in having Jones as #1 or #2, compared to #3 or #4 is the difference between a good WR corp and a not so good one.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



I was doing back flips the day they signed JJ but after this year, if he's still on the team, we have HUGE issues. He has OK hands and to my knowledge is a great guy, but has clearly lost a step. If Janis, Abby, etc. can't bump him from a roster spot by next year, 2016 may end up being uglier.
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go.pack.go.
9 years ago
I don't necessarily think that Jones has lost a step. I just think that he is a better WR when he is the #2 or #3 option, not #1. Randall Cobb is a great receiver as well, but I don't think he is a #1 receiver. Cobb is more of a slot receiver with great quickness and speed.
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TheKanataThrilla
9 years ago

I don't necessarily think that Jones has lost a step. I just think that he is a better WR when he is the #2 or #3 option, not #1. Randall Cobb is a great receiver as well, but I don't think he is a #1 receiver. Cobb is more of a slot receiver with great quickness and speed.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



Cobb is out of sorts this year. Whether it is a nagging problem from the early season injury, or he really does need Nelson to take the double-team and be the slot guy; he is just not producing up to the standard we need for the $$$ we are paying.

Just an observation, but it seems we are limiting our WRs to the sidelines far too much. It is frustrating to see other teams burn us over the middle and we constantly have to make the pinpoint throw to complete sideline stuff. Is this Aaron Rodgers guarding his INT stats? No confidence in the slot guys or TE? Lack of imagination?

Last question is why we seem to develop WRs so slowly. Is it a team philosophy on seniority? It just seems that Abby, Janis and Adams should be further along, but they are not.

PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago

I was doing back flips the day they signed JJ but after this year, if he's still on the team, we have HUGE issues. He has OK hands and to my knowledge is a great guy, but has clearly lost a step. If Janis, Abby, etc. can't bump him from a roster spot by next year, 2016 may end up being uglier.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



If he gets beat out for a position great. But he is a cheap 700+ yard 7-10TD option to be #3 or #4. I don't want to go into another season with no proven receiver after the top 2.
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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago

Cobb is out of sorts this year. Whether it is a nagging problem from the early season injury, or he really does need Nelson to take the double-team and be the slot guy; he is just not producing up to the standard we need for the $$$ we are paying.

Just an observation, but it seems we are limiting our WRs to the sidelines far too much. It is frustrating to see other teams burn us over the middle and we constantly have to make the pinpoint throw to complete sideline stuff. Is this Aaron Rodgers guarding his INT stats? No confidence in the slot guys or TE? Lack of imagination?

Last question is why we seem to develop WRs so slowly. Is it a team philosophy on seniority? It just seems that Abby, Janis and Adams should be further along, but they are not.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Agree on the sideline routes. Can watch plays and see that we barely ever run a WR or even a TE across the middle in front of the LBers.

Abby, has been hurt so he is a full year behind where he should be had he been healthy. Janis was a 7th rounder, so it was at best a crap shoot of him ever making the field in the first place. Adams, I'm not sure about. He seems to know the routes and where he is supposed to be, he blocks OK, he is just inconsistent catching. He can make a grab like the one Rodgers threw across field which ended up an incompletion even though a hard catch, than have the ball sail right between his hands on easier grabs. I don't think that is something the coaches can really develop, rather something Adams needs to do himself to get his confidence and consistency...
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go.pack.go.
9 years ago
I do agree that Adams seems to know the offense well enough, he just lacks confidence. It's like he's thinking about it too much out there on the field when the ball is in the air. I think he has talent, and has potential to make a good receiver.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

If he gets beat out for a position great. But he is a cheap 700+ yard 7-10TD option to be #3 or #4. I don't want to go into another season with no proven receiver after the top 2.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



I've always like JJ. I think he's had a hammy this year. Might be losing a half step though.
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dhazer
9 years ago

I do agree that Adams seems to know the offense well enough, he just lacks confidence. It's like he's thinking about it too much out there on the field when the ball is in the air. I think he has talent, and has potential to make a good receiver.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



I am sure it isn't helping any when you have your QB throwing you under the bus all the time and also the head coach. His confidence is rattled and the 2 main guys are not helping any.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago
More to the point presented in the original post ...

Davante Adams 53rd overall -- 6'1" 205lbs 4.56 forty dash 9" hands
Allen Robinson 61st overall -- 6'2" 212lbs 4.6 forty dash 9 1/2" hands
Jarvis Landry 63rd overall -- 5'11" 205lbs 4.77 forty dash 10 1/4" hands

I can't say I wanted any of them over the other, but from the measurables provided from the combine, it looks like Adams was a better prospect. Of course measurables mean squat between the lines, it's about football talent and execution.
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