Aaron Rodgers has a Davante Adams Problem· Page 2

cheeseheads123
Member

9 years ago

Montgomery was explosive. Losing him hurt.

But these WR are no different than when we were 6-0. Rodgers is different, that is all.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

This entire offense has sucked since the chiefs game

DoddPower
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#12

Montgomery was explosive. Losing him hurt.

But these WR are no different than when we were 6-0. Rodgers is different, that is all.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Wait, so the Packers WRs are playing no different than early in the season, but Aaron Rodgers is? That makes no sense. It's much more complicated than that. None of the Packers offensive players are playing very well consistently. This is not on any one person, or only on the players, period. Nerd logic.

The Packers are having an OFFENSIVE problem, which includes offensive talent, execution, health, play calling, scheme, and motivation, passion, etc.

nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

#13

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

We lost Ty Montgomery, that was a huge impact, because he was explosive.

Other than that, Aaron suddenly is unable to hit the broad side of a barn.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

DoddPower
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#14

We lost Ty Montgomery, that was a huge impact, because he was explosive.

Other than that, Aaron suddenly is unable to hit the broad side of a barn.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

He hit enough barns to win the game on Thursday. The barns just didn't hang on.

Aaron Rodgers is held to a high standard and is expected to make the incredible plays to win games. That's fair. He should be. But the rest of the Packers offense has to be held to the same standard. They need to make some great plays, tough clutch catches, consistently getting open in tight spaces, etc., when given the opportunity. There hasn't been enough of that lately.

Offensive and coaching problem. Not an Aaron Rodgers problem, not a Davante Adams problem. An offensive problem and ultimately a TEAM problem, because this defense will fold against the good playoff QBs it would have to beat to win the Super Bowl. Ultimately, I don't think it matters much at all because even if the offense starts playing better, it still won't be good enough to win the Super Bowl along with Dom Capers defense.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

9 years ago

#15

BULLSHIT.

How's Cobb looked the past two months? But Aaron's not gonna put the blame on him, because he has veteran standing.

This is on Aaron. These WR didn't all start to suddenly play like shit in week 8. Aaron did.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I don't agree. The WRs arnt getting open, and aren't doing what they are taught to do, which is to come back to the QB and do SOMETHING to get AR a chance to get a throw off to them.
Plus, how many drops have Cobb and Adams had?
I can answer that....WAY too many!
That's not RODGERS fault.
Our offense has been lousy.
Then Lacy fumbles, and MM pulls him out to "punish" him. But who did it punish???
THE TEAM!

nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

#16

I don't agree. The WRs arnt getting open, and aren't doing what they are taught to do, which is to come back to the QB and do SOMETHING to get Aaron Rodgers a chance to get a throw off to them.
Plus, how many drops have Cobb and Adams had?
I can answer that....WAY too many!
That's not RODGERS fault.
Our offense has been lousy.
Then Lacy fumbles, and Mike McCarthy pulls him out to "punish" him. But who did it punish???
THE TEAM!

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

They've had quite a few drops. But Aaron's WRs have always had drops. Finley dropped quite a few too. Remember the venerable Jordy Nelson in the SB? DROPS.

The thing that is different now, is Aaron. IMO.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#17

It's silly to want Rodgers to run more; The reason for the success is that it wasn't forced. Take off and run when it isn't absolutely obvious, and it won't work as well, plus the risk of injury. I'd like to have him get more protection - the O-Line IMO is still the primary culprit in any and all problems.

The title topic of the thread is Davante Adams. I've never been all that fired up about him. When we had both Nelson and Cobb, Adams was marginally decent as a possession receiver, but the guy just can't get open. ANY other team in the NFL would be making use of Janis by now, who is twice the athlete Adams is. If he is still lacking in understanding of pass routes or whatever, then for crying out loud, do some coaching and teach him! Somebody said Montgomery is explosive? Janis is a helluva lot more explosive. I absolutely HATED it that we cut that UDFA (I can't even remember his name - big, fast, explosive, but a little bit raw). Other teams by half way through the first season take guys like that or Janis and play them effectively.

I'm coming around to the point of view that play calling is faulty. I don't, however, think it would do any good to go back to McCarthy, as he and Clement are likeminded.

Collingsworth alluded to something I was already thinking: that Denver exposed something - man coverage and a four man pass rush that doesn't allow Rodgers to get outside. Our O-Line is so bad that just a base four man rush is in on him so quick that what used to work doesn't - that and no Nelson/no deep threat.

Bad as the recent weeks have been, everything is still in reach, and we still should win it all.

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Cheesey
Preferred Member

9 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

The difference is, when guys made drops in the past, a play or two later they would make up for it with a big play (like Jordy did in the Super Bowl).
The guys are just dropping balls, and then disappearing.
HUGE difference.

nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

#19

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

And they all suddenly started doing this at the same time?

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

It's not some ridiculous standard to expect Rodgers to be able to lead the offense to more than 13 points against a shit defense like Chicagos. He played like ass most of the night regardless of certain times WRs had trouble catching. If holding Rodgers to a "higher standard" is expecting him to be better than Alex Smith then it's really not too high of a standard is it?

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