Aaron Rodgers has a Davante Adams Problem· Page 2

cheeseheads123
Member

8 years ago

Montgomery was explosive. Losing him hurt.

But these WR are no different than when we were 6-0. Rodgers is different, that is all.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

This entire offense has sucked since the chiefs game

DoddPower
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#12

Montgomery was explosive. Losing him hurt.

But these WR are no different than when we were 6-0. Rodgers is different, that is all.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Wait, so the Packers WRs are playing no different than early in the season, but Aaron Rodgers is? That makes no sense. It's much more complicated than that. None of the Packers offensive players are playing very well consistently. This is not on any one person, or only on the players, period. Nerd logic.

The Packers are having an OFFENSIVE problem, which includes offensive talent, execution, health, play calling, scheme, and motivation, passion, etc.

nerdmann
Premier Member

8 years ago

#13

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

We lost Ty Montgomery, that was a huge impact, because he was explosive.

Other than that, Aaron suddenly is unable to hit the broad side of a barn.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

DoddPower
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#14

We lost Ty Montgomery, that was a huge impact, because he was explosive.

Other than that, Aaron suddenly is unable to hit the broad side of a barn.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

He hit enough barns to win the game on Thursday. The barns just didn't hang on.

Aaron Rodgers is held to a high standard and is expected to make the incredible plays to win games. That's fair. He should be. But the rest of the Packers offense has to be held to the same standard. They need to make some great plays, tough clutch catches, consistently getting open in tight spaces, etc., when given the opportunity. There hasn't been enough of that lately.

Offensive and coaching problem. Not an Aaron Rodgers problem, not a Davante Adams problem. An offensive problem and ultimately a TEAM problem, because this defense will fold against the good playoff QBs it would have to beat to win the Super Bowl. Ultimately, I don't think it matters much at all because even if the offense starts playing better, it still won't be good enough to win the Super Bowl along with Dom Capers defense.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

8 years ago

#15

BULLSHIT.

How's Cobb looked the past two months? But Aaron's not gonna put the blame on him, because he has veteran standing.

This is on Aaron. These WR didn't all start to suddenly play like shit in week 8. Aaron did.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I don't agree. The WRs arnt getting open, and aren't doing what they are taught to do, which is to come back to the QB and do SOMETHING to get Aaron Rodgers a chance to get a throw off to them.
Plus, how many drops have Cobb and Adams had?
I can answer that....WAY too many!
That's not RODGERS fault.
Our offense has been lousy.
Then Lacy fumbles, and Mike McCarthy pulls him out to "punish" him. But who did it punish???
THE TEAM!

nerdmann
Premier Member

8 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

They've had quite a few drops. But Aaron's WRs have always had drops. Finley dropped quite a few too. Remember the venerable Jordy Nelson in the SB? DROPS.

The thing that is different now, is Aaron. IMO.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#17

It's silly to want Rodgers to run more; The reason for the success is that it wasn't forced. Take off and run when it isn't absolutely obvious, and it won't work as well, plus the risk of injury. I'd like to have him get more protection - the O-Line IMO is still the primary culprit in any and all problems.

The title topic of the thread is Davante Adams. I've never been all that fired up about him. When we had both Nelson and Cobb, Adams was marginally decent as a possession receiver, but the guy just can't get open. ANY other team in the NFL would be making use of Janis by now, who is twice the athlete Adams is. If he is still lacking in understanding of pass routes or whatever, then for crying out loud, do some coaching and teach him! Somebody said Montgomery is explosive? Janis is a helluva lot more explosive. I absolutely HATED it that we cut that UDFA (I can't even remember his name - big, fast, explosive, but a little bit raw). Other teams by half way through the first season take guys like that or Janis and play them effectively.

I'm coming around to the point of view that play calling is faulty. I don't, however, think it would do any good to go back to McCarthy, as he and Clement are likeminded.

Collingsworth alluded to something I was already thinking: that Denver exposed something - man coverage and a four man pass rush that doesn't allow Rodgers to get outside. Our O-Line is so bad that just a base four man rush is in on him so quick that what used to work doesn't - that and no Nelson/no deep threat.

Bad as the recent weeks have been, everything is still in reach, and we still should win it all.

Expressing the Good Normal Views of Good Normal Americans.
If Anything I Say Smacks of Extremism, Please Tell Me EXACTLY What.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

8 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

The difference is, when guys made drops in the past, a play or two later they would make up for it with a big play (like Jordy did in the Super Bowl).
The guys are just dropping balls, and then disappearing.
HUGE difference.

nerdmann
Premier Member

8 years ago

#19

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

And they all suddenly started doing this at the same time?

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

steveishere
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

It's not some ridiculous standard to expect Rodgers to be able to lead the offense to more than 13 points against a shit defense like Chicagos. He played like ass most of the night regardless of certain times WRs had trouble catching. If holding Rodgers to a "higher standard" is expecting him to be better than Alex Smith then it's really not too high of a standard is it?

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

packerfanoutwest (12h) : Jaire Alexander says he has a torn PCL

Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Even with the context it's ... what?

Mucky Tundra (20-Nov) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”

beast (20-Nov) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout

beast (20-Nov) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL

Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.

Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.

beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?

beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : The Jets fired Joe Douglas, per sources

packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Jets are a mess......

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Pretty sure Jets fired their scouting staff and just pluck former Packers.

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Jets sign Anders Carlson to their 53.

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : When you cycle the weeks, the total over remains for season. But you get your W/L for that selected week. Confusing.

packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks

packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the totals are accurate..nrvrtmind

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : I don't follow what you are saying. The totals are not the same as last week.

packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : ok so then wht are the totals the same as last week?

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : NFL Pick'em is auto updated when NFL Scores tab is clicked

Martha Careful (19-Nov) : The offense was OK. Let's not forget the Bear defense is very very good.

packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Who updates the leaderboard on NFLPickem?

beast (19-Nov) : Has the Packers offense been worse since the former Jets coach joined the Packers?

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Offense gets his ass in gear, this could be good.

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Backup QB helped with three wins. Special Teams contributed to three wins.

bboystyle (18-Nov) : Lions played outside thats why. They scored 16 and 17 in the only 2 outside games this year

Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : The rest of the NFL is catching up to Packers ... kicking is an issue throughout league

packerfanoutwest (18-Nov) : Packers DL Kenny Clark: We knew 'we were going to block' Bears' game-winning field goal attempt

Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Lions seem to be throttling everyone, but only (only) got 24 lol maybe the rain is why

Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Packers vs Lions game doesn't seem so bad.

beast (18-Nov) : Dennis Green "They are what we thought they were, and we let them off the hook!"

Martha Careful (17-Nov) : comment of the day Z2Cool "Bears better than we want to admit. Packers worse than we think. It's facts."

Mucky Tundra (17-Nov) : my worst case scenario: Bears fix their oline and get a coach like Johnson from the Lions and his scheme

Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Bears get OL fixed amd we might have a problem

buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Pretty sure they already have scouting reports on guys who aren't even starting for their college team. The future is now for me.

buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : I tend to let Gute and Co. Worry about the future.

beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them

buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Jaire and Evans Williams are both ACTIVE! Good news.

Martha Careful (17-Nov) : The badgers really need to change the whole offensive scheme. No draws no screens plus the quarterback is marginal

Cheesey (17-Nov) : If the Badgers had a decent QB, they would have won. The guy can't hit a wide open receiver

Martha Careful (17-Nov) : chop block

Martha Careful (17-Nov) : there was a very questionable job Block call that upon viewing replay was very borderline

beast (17-Nov) : How so? (I didn't watch)

Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Badgers got hosed vs Oregon

packerfanoutwest (16-Nov) : damn,he hasn't played since week 2

Mucky Tundra (15-Nov) : poor guy can't catch a break

wpr (15-Nov) : wow. That three different things for the kid.

Zero2Cool (15-Nov) : MarShawn Lloyd has appendicitis according to Matt LaFleur.

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2024 Packers Schedule

Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM

Eagles

29 - 34

Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM

COLTS

16 - 10

Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM

Titans

30 - 14

Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

29 - 31

Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM

Rams

24 - 19

Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM

CARDINALS

34 - 13

Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM

TEXANS

24 - 22

Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM

Jaguars

30 - 27

Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

14 - 24

Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM

Bears

20 - 19

Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM

49ERS

Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM

DOLPHINS

Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM

Lions

Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM

Seahawks

Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM

SAINTS

Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM

Vikings

Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM

BEARS