luigis
9 years ago

Tretter got overpowered a lot in this game. He's not nearly as strong as Linsley and he will always struggle with power players, which is the majority of the defensive tackles he's likely to face. He does seem to move well, though.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Movement is better than power for the style of our OL. I suposse.... We'll see
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Cheesey
9 years ago
The Cobb dropped passes has be baffled. Does he need glasses or something? He usually is dependable.

If our D plays like it did Sunday, we have a chance to go deep into the playoffs.
If they revert to the prvious 3 games, then we are dead in the water.
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DakotaT
9 years ago

The Cobb dropped passes has be baffled. Does he need glasses or something? He usually is dependable.

If our D plays like it did Sunday, we have a chance to go deep into the playoffs.
If they revert to the prvious 3 games, then we are dead in the water.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



When one understands the D's success is completely controlled by the opponents' offensive line, then football clarity becomes easier. We have decent players, but how good are the other teams'? Arizona is the next bench mark game.
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Cheesey
9 years ago
Also true.
But our D held Adrian Peterson to 45 yards. That was pretty outstanding, and I didn't expect that. I thought he'd run all over our guys.
He ran over defenses all this year, and our guys stopped him in his tracks and didn't let their QB beat us.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Also true.
But our D held Adrian Peterson to 45 yards. That was pretty outstanding, and I didn't expect that. I thought he'd run all over our guys.
He ran over defenses all this year, and our guys stopped him in his tracks and didn't let their QB beat us.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I'm quite flabbergasted the defensive job the Packers did on Adrian Peterson is not being discussed more. Maybe people just don't want to give Dom Capers and the defense any credit and just fling the hate?
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greengold
9 years ago

If our D plays like it did Sunday, we have a chance to go deep into the playoffs.
If they revert to the prvious 3 games, then we are dead in the water.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Defense has been very good the last 2 weeks vs. Detroit and @ Minnesota.


DoddPower
9 years ago

When one understands the D's success is completely controlled by the opponents' offensive line, then football clarity becomes easier. We have decent players, but how good are the other teams'? Arizona is the next bench mark game.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



The Green Bay Packers have some solid talent on defense. They should always be an above average unit at worst. Mike Daniels is one of the better defensive linemen in the league, Datone Jones is have a solid season, Nick Perry and Mike Neal are solid, and BJ Raji is have a better than average season. Clay Mathews is great, Ha Ha is having a good season, Shields is a good cover corner, and Randall is becoming a decent starter already. That's a talented defense. Probably not top of the league, but there's no reason they shouldn't end the season in the top 10-15 scoring defenses, if not better. There's no excuse for giving up 500+ yards in a game. That's mostly on the coaches, imo. There are enough "good" players available to Dom Capers to consistently field a "good" defense.
Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Having four offensive drives that didn't even eat up 90 seconds didn't help the Packers defense against the Chargers. Add a 3 and out that took 2 minutes and 10 seconds and yeah, your defense is going to get roasted.

5 Punts and a safety really helps the Broncos.

The 9 punts didn't help at all against the Lions either and the could have still won the game if Mason Crosby bangs it through.


When the offense moves the chains and eats some clock, the defense doesn't look like Swiss cheese.

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DoddPower
9 years ago

Having four offensive drives that didn't even eat up 90 seconds didn't help the Packers defense against the Chargers. Add a 3 and out that took 2 minutes and 10 seconds and yeah, your defense is going to get roasted.

5 Punts and a safety really helps the Broncos.

The 9 punts didn't help at all against the Lions either and the could have still won the game if Mason Crosby bangs it through.


When the offense moves the chains and eats some clock, the defense doesn't look like Swiss cheese.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yeah, I mean it would be nice to have a defense that could carry the team, but the Packers aren't that talented. But they're talented enough to be "good."
DakotaT
9 years ago

The Green Bay Packers have some solid talent on defense. They should always be an above average unit at worst. Mike Daniels is one of the better defensive linemen in the league, Datone Jones is have a solid season, Nick Perry and Mike Neal are solid, and BJ Raji is have a better than average season. Clay Mathews is great, Ha Ha is having a good season, Shields is a good cover corner, and Randall is becoming a decent starter already. That's a talented defense. Probably not top of the league, but there's no reason they shouldn't end the season in the top 10-15 scoring defenses, if not better. There's no excuse for giving up 500+ yards in a game. That's mostly on the coaches, imo. There are enough "good" players available to Dom Capers to consistently field a "good" defense.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



They might be physically talented, but you see a lot of mental mistakes out there. Seems like they aren't very disciplined and probably lack consistency in scheme.
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