The Glass Half Full and Half Empty (Chargers Edition)· Page 2

luigis
Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

Honestly I thought our pass rush was ok. Rivers was just getting the ball out really fast. We did get what, 3 sacks?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I have three comments about this observation:

#1 we were blitz-happy all game long, so 3 sacks is very very low because we paid the cost of leaving huge holes in our coverage. The results were very clear.

#2 it's amazing the difference Raji made. There was 0, none, zero, zilch push from the line and Rivers just picked blitz after blitz like all good QBs do.

#3 Capers seriously has a problem if he thinks the same defense that worked against Cutler will work against Rivers.

PLEASE: I don't want Payton Manning to get the record for most TDs or most yards by a guy over 38 or something liket that. No more records, no more first times.

Luis

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#12

First time a QB threw for over 500 yards with no picks and lost. I like that record.

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

Barfarn
Senior Member

9 years ago

#13

Sometimes ya gotta give the other team credit. Rivers was absolutely brilliant. This maybe the greatest QB performance of all time! Their OL was BAAAAAD; our pass rush was very good; a hostile in Lambeau against a really good secondary. Top RB out. Missing his #2 receiver and #1 went out during the game. Who has thrown for 500 yards under these conditions?

There is no defense against the perfect pass. All a CB does is knock down less than perfect pass; the worse the CB the less perfect the pass has to be. For most of Rivers' passes there was a defender right there.

The rush was good. How about that play where CM3 exploded on Rivers in like .10 second and he COMPLETED the pass. Like I said BRILLIANT!

That said a D designed to have Hyde cover Inman or Allen is STUPID. Love the cross fire blitz and OLBs dropping into coverage; but its STUPID to have Peppers or Neal covering that little leprechaun or Oliver in the flat because Rivers will just dump it there, Rivers is not Cutler. But, Rivers exploited those mismatches.

beast
Select Member

9 years ago

#14

The Glass Half Full:
- J. Starks: Not only he run well, he was perfect in pass protection, I keep thinking Starks could be a star in many other teams.

The Glass Half Empty:
- T. Clemments: What a disaster, Starks run for 90 yards in the 1st qtr and you let him touch the ball 7 (!!!!) times in the rest of the game. This wasn't a game to get too cute, our offense is pass wacky, imbalanced and lacks rhythm.

Originally Posted by: luigis

PREACH!! [giddity] 👍

All the people wanted to release Starks before the season... Starks can be a very talented playmaker.
And I believe Starks only touched the ball once on a NON-scoring drive, it was odd, if he touched the ball they seemed to get at least a FG out of the drive, but if he didn't touch the ball on a drive it seemed to fail. I'm sure that's just random one game pattern but interesting none the less. Also Rodgers over threw him on one play where he could of scored if he had a catchable pass (and caught it).

The Glass Half Empty:
- D.Capers: You gave 500+ yards and 32 first downs playing at home. Enough said.

Originally Posted by: luigis

The Glass Half Full:
~ Offensive heavily struggling and STILL the Packers are undefeated (thank the defense)
~ Packers Average Points Per Game Against = 16.8 (3rd in the entire NFL)
(without Burnett, Barrington and one of the NTs (Guion or Raji) for most of that)

isocleas2
Member

9 years ago

#15

I thought Rivers played amazing. How many of those throws were perfect checks after he spotted the rush coming? How many of those completions were back shoulder throws? It seemed like quite a few. My point is the Packers threw a ton of different looks at them but it didn't matter, Rivers was just in the zone. He is a top 10 quarterback who at times has played like a top 5 guy, today especially.

Getting Raji, Burnett, Perry, and Adams back will fix alot of problems. My bigger concern right now is the offense, with how banged up the WRs are and ineffective the running game has looked lately....well lets just hope getting Adams back is the magical fix.

Bigbyfan
Member

9 years ago

#16

I may be the only person, but I enjoy wins like this where everything seems to go wrong.

The defense gives up 500 yd on 65 pass attempts, but only allowed 20 points and held at the goal line when it mattered most.

Offense gets out to an early lead, then goes completely dead. Ty Montgomery gets hurt and Lacy clearly isnt healthy. With the Chargers catching up, Packers drive down the field and score a touchdown when we really needed it.

Nothing is ever easy in the playoffs. This team is becoming battle tested early. They have faced adversity and still come out victorious. Sort of a "back against the wall" mentality. The 2011 Packers blew out teams for the first 13 weeks, got punched in the mouth and didn't know how to react. That won't happen with this team.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan

The team "held" at the goal line, because Rivers missed Woodhead wide open in the end zone.

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DoddPower
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#18

The team "held" at the goal line, because Rivers missed Woodhead wide open in the end zone.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Yeah, but that's football. No team or player makes the right decisions 100% of the time. Aaron Rodgers certainly doesn't.

beast
Select Member

9 years ago

#19

The team "held" at the goal line, because Rivers missed Woodhead wide open in the end zone.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Yeah, but that's football. No team or player makes the right decisions 100% of the time. Aaron Rodgers certainly doesn't.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

And Woodhead wasn't "wide open" as Randall was split between Woodhead and Gates...

Rivers threw it to Gates the first time and Randall was there, he threw it to Woodhead the second time and Randall was there... it's possible if Rivers threw it to Woodhead the first time, Randall might of been there as well... even though he did look a bit further off that first time than the second time.

But as I said about that second time, it looked like Randall could of had a pick 6 and didn't even try to catch it, but just went for the simple play of knocking it away on 4th down. So being a little further r away on the first play it was possible he could of gotten to it and knocked it down...

The other thing was Randall was reading the QB, if Rivers isn't looking towards Woodhead, he can and did cheat a bit towards Gates on the first one. Then he moved towards Woodhead when he looked that way... so Randall was in the general area and reading the QB so Woodhead wasn't alone and completely wide open, there was a CB there, who made the play when it went to that guy.

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#20

The team "held" at the goal line, because Rivers missed Woodhead wide open in the end zone.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I'm thinking maybe you are referring to two plays earlier when Rivers threw the fade to Gates and it looked like he either coulda run untouched or thrown to Woodhead?

If that;s what you meant, yeah maybe ....... but there woulda been around a minute left on the clock and a fairly strong chance Rodgers woulda brought the Packers back to win it with a field goal. Anyway, we woulda beat 'em in overtime. My big fear was that they would score the TD and decide to go for two and the win. That woulda really sucked.

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