Originally Posted by: steveishere 

You can find plenty of examples both ways. I argue that there are more opportunities where the receivers have little separation or the offensive line play is pathetic than Aaron Rodgers missing open receivers. There are screen shots to show that, as well. With that being said, I don't think anyone is arguing that Aaron Rodgers is blameless. It's obvious he is. However, it's a TEAM issue, not just receivers, offensive line, QB, or coaching. They are all to blame. But if an offensive line can't block, receivers struggle to get open consistently, and the offensive scheme isn't the greatest, most QBs will struggle. Once a QB hears footsteps, they play scared.

I've said Aaron Rodgers needs to play better for years, especially in the playoffs. But he absolutely needs more help from the rest of his teammates. If Aaron Rodgers "only" plays "good" or "average," the Packers don't stand a chance. The rest of the team should be better, especially the defense, imo.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 

My problem with this is, Rodgers is the QB, he knows the Oline is struggling. He is the guy that needs to be going to Clements and Mike and saying. We can't be running all these deep routes because the line can't protect long enough. He is the guy that needs to be changing the plays being called to help his Oline out.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

He's also the one who should be getting the ball out in under 8 seconds.

What I find strange is that this happened ALL OF A SUDDEN.

Aaron goes from being compared to Micheal Jordan, Eddie Lacy goes from elite to can't do shit, the offensive line suddenly starts missing assignments, the D goes from domination and sack leadership to surrendering 500 yards per game.

ALL AT ONCE.

Wtf gives, man?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

My problem with this is, Rodgers is the QB, he knows the Oline is struggling. He is the guy that needs to be going to Clements and Mike and saying. We can't be running all these deep routes because the line can't protect long enough. He is the guy that needs to be changing the plays being called to help his Oline out.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

Ultimately, Rodgers needs more help. He's a great player but he's not super man. He needs more help from the coaches, offense, and defense if the Packers are going to be champions again, and that's only going to become more of a priority as the years pass. But with that being said, Aaron Rodgers is much more than good enough to win at least one more Super Bowl. The rest depends on the pieces around him, which includes coaches that help/make him play better.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 

First of all, how do you know he's not? Second of all, he isn't the only one that is accountable for this stuff. He shouldn't have to do that, even if he does. The Packers should have good enough coaches to address and scheme these issues for Rodgers, develop a solid game plan, and depend on Rodgers and the offense to execute the plan. If Rodgers has to tell the coaches what the problems are, the Packers need new coaches ASAP (which I think they do, at least offensive line coach and defensive coordinator).

Ultimately, Rodgers needs more help. He's a great player but he's not super man. He needs more help from the coaches, offense, and defense if the Packers are going to be champions again, and that's only going to become more of a priority as the years pass. But with that being said, Aaron Rodgers is much more than good enough to win at least one more Super Bowl. The rest depends on the pieces around him, which includes coaches that help/make him play better.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 

We should have already had 2 more Lombardis in the trophy case. That's what pisses me off about the slurpers in here that just accept every lame ass excuse coming out of 1265 Lombardi Ave. We pissed away Favre's career and are doing the exact same thing now with Rodgers'.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

Yeah, I don't necessarily get the angst towards Rodgers. Yes, he needs to play better. That's been the case for years and most his career outside of late 2010, 2011, and sporadic other times. But the bottom line is that he's plenty good enough to be a multiple Super Bowl champion. If he consistently had a solid defense and offensive line play, the Packers would have likely had at least one more ring. But without that, it's more and more obvious that Rodgers can't carry the team alone. The Packers need to fix their issues while they actually have a QB good enough to win championships. Otherwise, they may be stuck with a shitty defensive, offensive line, AND a QB that won't win a championship.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 

First of all, how do you know he's not? Second of all, he isn't the only one that is accountable for this stuff. He shouldn't have to do that, even if he does. The Packers should have good enough coaches to address and scheme these issues for Rodgers, develop a solid game plan, and depend on Rodgers and the offense to execute the plan. If Rodgers has to tell the coaches what the problems are, the Packers need new coaches ASAP (which I think they do, at least offensive line coach and defensive coordinator).

Ultimately, Rodgers needs more help. He's a great player but he's not super man. He needs more help from the coaches, offense, and defense if the Packers are going to be champions again, and that's only going to become more of a priority as the years pass. But with that being said, Aaron Rodgers is much more than good enough to win at least one more Super Bowl. The rest depends on the pieces around him, which includes coaches that help/make him play better.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower