Dulak
9 years ago

Oh, that was his idea that the Packers forced Nick Collins to have surgery? My mistake then as I read it as he was stating a fact.

Uffda said many times once the season starts, he goes into hibernation. If you read what he said, you would know this. Your bromance for the guy is starting to cross a border of being gross. Not that there is anything wrong with that, of course. 😁

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Not pointing at you Zero ... But - doing fusion surgery to a pro nfl player isnt a smart thing to do and expect him to recover and play. I know its common 'medical' practice to do this type of surgery; but others just as trained believe otherwise and have patients that recover and do not have the repercussions of surgery to boot (which in the nfl can end their career).

nerdmann
9 years ago

Nick Collins made the decision to have the surgery. If you do not know facts, maybe stop spouting off as if you do? I really don't know why you have this annoying hatred for the Packers medical staff, but you really do not have any idea what you are talking about. Focus on things you know, like, teams self shitting for example or perhaps a lull or two.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



The way I remember they told him they wouldn't let him play until he got it. Then he did, so they still wouldn't let him play.

Meanwhile I've seen hundreds of "disc bulges" just like that get successfully treated without any surgery whatsoever. Therefore I conclude that the team doctor is incompetent and does not know wtf he is doing.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Zero2Cool
9 years ago

The way I remember they told him they wouldn't let him play until he got it. Then he did, so they still wouldn't let him play.

Meanwhile I've seen hundreds of "disc bulges" just like that get successfully treated without any surgery whatsoever. Therefore I conclude that the team doctor is incompetent and does not know wtf he is doing.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



That's a far cry from what you said. And Nick was told for him to have any chance at playing, he needed the surgery. This is very common and transparent. Nick could have chosen no surgery and walked away. Nick made the choice, no one made him.

We have to stop thinking we are entitled to medical concerns of athletes. Know your role and accept it is not your business.


UserPostedImage
nerdmann
9 years ago

That's a far cry from what you said. And Nick was told for him to have any chance at playing, he needed the surgery. This is very common and transparent. Nick could have chosen no surgery and walked away. Nick made the choice, no one made him.

We have to stop thinking we are entitled to medical concerns of athletes. Know your role and accept it is not your business.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



To reiterate, he could have just gotten rid of the bulge. It's not difficult.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Not pointing at you Zero ... But - doing fusion surgery to a pro nfl player isnt a smart thing to do and expect him to recover and play. I know its common 'medical' practice to do this type of surgery; but others just as trained believe otherwise and have patients that recover and do not have the repercussions of surgery to boot (which in the nfl can end their career).

Originally Posted by: Dulak 



Those were not the expectations. Those were mere hopes. If the guy wanted ANY CHANCE at playing again, he had to have the surgery. It is critical to understand that phrase -- ANY CHANCE -- here. It does not mean he was expected to return to the field. It does not mean he was immediately cleared once surgery was over. No, nothing of the sort. It means for the player to have had ANY CHANCE (widely acknowledged as slim) the surgery was necessary.

A lot of athletes are posed with the option of retire or have surgery and work your ass off to get back on the field. ACL for example. You can recover from that and live a normal non-athlete life, but if you want ANY CHANCE of playing again you are better off to have the surgery.
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Gotta respect a staff that respects its players.

UserPostedImage
beast
9 years ago

Gotta respect a staff that respects its players.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Very very very true.

BUT... I have to wonder that IF he is done for the season, when or if the Packers will move him to the IR. (and they could still be doing more test to determine stuff). Then again even if they moved him to the IR, that doesn't mean they would do anything with his roster spot... as Ted Thompson has done it a number of times, left a roster spot open to give him freedom to make moves if/when a move is needed (and I think he left Nick Collins on the roster a while even after it was reported his career is probably over and clearly his season was over).

Normally it hasn't hurt Ted Thompson or the Packers but it did seem to tick off or piss off CB Jumal Rolle, who might of been ticked off before that, as he seemed (according to a number of fans) seemed to out play CB Goodson, and they kept Goodson, and didn't bring up Rolle when they had a free roster spot, so when he got an offer from the Texans, he was gone (even though rumor has it the Packers then offered a roster spot to him as well).

But if there is basically a free spot, I wouldn't mind locking up DL Gaston or TE Perillo (or someone better if they like someone more). Packers could also use more depth at TE, LB and S with possible injuries making those spots slim of healthy players.


UserPostedImage
DoddPower
9 years ago

Very very very true.

BUT... I have to wonder that IF he is done for the season, when or if the Packers will move him to the IR. (and they could still be doing more test to determine stuff). Then again even if they moved him to the IR, that doesn't mean they would do anything with his roster spot... as Ted Thompson has done it a number of times, left a roster spot open to give him freedom to make moves if/when a move is needed (and I think he left Nick Collins on the roster a while even after it was reported his career is probably over and clearly his season was over).

Normally it hasn't hurt Ted Thompson or the Packers but it did seem to tick off or piss off CB Jumal Rolle, who might of been ticked off before that, as he seemed (according to a number of fans) seemed to out play CB Goodson, and they kept Goodson, and didn't bring up Rolle when they had a free roster spot, so when he got an offer from the Texans, he was gone (even though rumor has it the Packers then offered a roster spot to him as well).

But if there is basically a free spot, I wouldn't mind locking up DL Gaston or TE Perillo (or someone better if they like someone more). Packers could also use more depth at TE, LB and S with possible injuries making those spots slim of healthy players.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Gaston would be nice. Good depth.
Barfarn
9 years ago
It's possible they're doing tests that will affect what seems to be the inevitable. But I think its just a stall until they decide what to do w/ the roster spot.
Ted Thompson may have made an error last year moving Mulumba to IR too quickly [leaving us w/ 52 on roster] because for a player to qualify for a 3rd year on practice squad the team must have a full roster the entire time the guy was on PS. It's hard to believe Ted Thompson would have goofed like that, so maybe the roster has to be at 52 for more than 1 week and/or to qualify for those newly created 2 practice squad spots the 52 roster thingy doesn't matter.

And as Beast points out, if you have an open roster spot, all 10 guys on the PS might get pi$$ed and/or feel the club doesn't value them at all.

greengold
9 years ago

It's possible they're doing tests that will affect what seems to be the inevitable. But I think its just a stall until they decide what to do w/ the roster spot.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 





Tim Scott is on the Cowboys practice squad. Played 3 years at CB and his senior year at S in college.

http://www.goheels.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205497684 
Fan Shout
dfosterf (25-Jul) : It's my one day deal complaint dept. on shareholder meeting day
dfosterf (25-Jul) : Probably a homer access credential intimidation kinda thing
dfosterf (25-Jul) : Meathead "journalists" skip this, concentrating on operational revenue when convenient. They switch when net revenue is more favorable.
dfosterf (25-Jul) : Resulting in an actual drop of net revenue of 12.5%. She is from Minnesota. Just sayin'
dfosterf (25-Jul) : Any plans to hold Maureen Smith (CFO) accountable for a 95% drop in investment revenue?
Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : In your face, HBO!
Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : @ByRyanWood Mark Murphy: “A great source of pride of mine is that we were never on Hard Knocks.”
Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : *years
Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : @mattschneidman Mark Murphy says he anticipates “many Packers games” being played in Germany, Ireland and/or the U.K. over the next 5-10 yea
dfosterf (25-Jul) : *cafeteria* I have hit my head also, so I sympathize
dfosterf (25-Jul) : Possibly hit his head leaning into the glass protecting the food in the cafateria
dfosterf (25-Jul) : Maybe a low flying drone
dfosterf (25-Jul) : Did Savion Williams run into a goalpost or something?
Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : also, no bueno when a guy starts getting concussions right off the bat in his career
Zero2Cool (25-Jul) : Concussion is worse. Banks probably vet off day via back booboo claim
Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : @AndyHermanNFL Jordy Nelson out at camp today. No word if he’s in play for one of the two open roster spots ; )
dfosterf (25-Jul) : Is that better or worse than Banks bad back?
Zero2Cool (25-Jul) : Savion concussion ... not good.
packerfanoutwest (24-Jul) : Aaron Rodgers’s first pass of first team period was picked off
Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : tbh I didn't hear of his passing
Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Cosby Show. Malcom Jamal Warner I think is real name
Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : I was thinking of Ozzy and Hulk
Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : Who's Theo?
Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : How is Theo alliteration?
Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : Bad week for people whose names are alliterations
Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Hulk Hogan gone too.
Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Oh, it's toe injury
Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Hope it's not serious. that would stink
dfosterf (24-Jul) : Sounds like an ankle not a knee for Fields
dfosterf (24-Jul) : Ya Flaccp on Browns
Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Maybe Tyrod Taylor instead
Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : He's on Browns, right?
dfosterf (24-Jul) : They would probably go with Flacco is my guess if Fields out
dfosterf (24-Jul) : Fleece 'em again!
Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Malik Willis might be someone Jets come after
packerfanoutwest (24-Jul) : Packers introduce 1923-inspired classic uniform, leather-look helmet
Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Both LB Quay Walker and Rookie DB Micah Robinson have passed their physicals
Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Happy to see site feels more snappy snappy
Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : No sir. I did not.
dfosterf (23-Jul) : You didn't get free childcare when you were at work?
wpr (23-Jul) : These guys make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. Pay for their own childcare.
dfosterf (23-Jul) : 2nd issue. Number 1 issue was no gameday childcare. 1 of 3 teams not providing it
Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Suppose if locker room is main issue, we sitting pretty
wpr (23-Jul) : I thought so Mucky. In those useless player polls GB always rates high overall. Locker is a part of it.
Mucky Tundra (23-Jul) : Wasn't the locker room just updated like 6 or 7 years ago?
Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : I have forum updated on different site. We'll see how this one goes before going to that
Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Elgton Jenkins has a back injury, is expect to end contract dispute
wpr (23-Jul) : It's funny the PA complained about the locker room. It wasn't that long ago it was top shelf. Things change in a hurry.
wpr (23-Jul) : The site is much more better.
Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : NFLPA report said Packers lockerroom needed upgrade. Whining bout where you change?
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
25-Jul / Around The NFL / Mucky Tundra

25-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

25-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

25-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

25-Jul / Around The NFL / beast

24-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

24-Jul / Around The NFL / beast

24-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

23-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

23-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

22-Jul / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

22-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

22-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

20-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.