Barfarn
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9 years ago
That's right, we witnessed below average QB play last night.

Now let's use this grade to force a renegotiation. If that doesn't work we can cut AR and get Clausen from Bears for a 6th!!!

PFF...who ya crappin'?" and Com'mon man!


steveishere
9 years ago
The problem of trying to put a grade is you can't put a +/- on ball velocity or a absurdly quick release but those are things Rodgers did last night that make the throws look easier than they are and give the WR more of a chance to pick up YAC. I guess pinpoint accuracy from a QB is just routine and not worthy of "bonus points" as well.
PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
So the defense committing a penalty becomes a negative play for a QB? If making the best read under the circumstances resulting in TDs is expected than NO QB should have positive because throwing a completion is the expected outcome.
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DarkaneRules
9 years ago
Stats are dumb.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
QCHuskerFan
9 years ago
PFF was right about the 3 TD's to Cobb. Didn't exactly require a pin point throw to a small window downfield. It was about like handing the ball to Lacy. AR doesn't get credit for doing that, so...

PFF is a great source of information. But like test scores in school, they are not a perfect measure. Just 1 source. Criticizing PFF for imperfection is like whining about the Packers D in the 4th qtr.
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gotarace
9 years ago
If that is a Sub-Par Performance I will take it every week of the Season. 5 tds..0 int. and total command of the offensive side of the game deserves a better grade than that.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
The ESPN folks showed a stat that Aaron Rodgers didn't complete a pass over 5 or 10 yards through I think three quarters or something. I read the article, it is not that hard to understand the negative grade. It's not the end of the world. I am finding it humorous how some are all "look ProFootballFocus is the dumb!" over this. If you for a second thing there is anything that is concrete in determining player worth, you're kind of naive. Because, if there was, then we wouldn't see draft picks being cut from teams ... ever.

PFF is good information. You can ignore it, you can take parts of it or you can go crazy and believe every single grade.
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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
As we saw on the play Montgomery was flagged for blocking early. It only takes a fraction of a second to turn a TD into not a TD. If the ball is thrown high, low, or not in the right spot none of those throws end up as TDs. And making that throw, that quickly is just as difficult as a throw 20 yards into the endzone. Probably harder because those long throws QBs have more time to make them.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
steveishere
9 years ago
I don't like that they apparently give him a big negative for the fumble because even though the play didn't count "you can't ignore that it happened" while completely being able to ignore that the penalty (against the player he was looking to throw to) also happened.
steveishere
9 years ago

The ESPN folks showed a stat that Aaron Rodgers didn't complete a pass over 5 or 10 yards through I think three quarters or something. I read the article, it is not that hard to understand the negative grade. It's not the end of the world. I am finding it humorous how some are all "look ProFootballFocus is the dumb!" over this. If you for a second thing there is anything that is concrete in determining player worth, you're kind of naive. Because, if there was, then we wouldn't see draft picks being cut from teams ... ever.

PFF is good information. You can ignore it, you can take parts of it or you can go crazy and believe every single grade.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



well that's dumb because I'm watching the 2nd quarter right now and Rodgers just threw a 15 yard laser to Cobb across the middle.
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