buckeyepackfan
9 years ago

Raji?

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



O-line?

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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

Raji?

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Oops ....... I have to give you that one. You probably could dig up stuff on Brad Jones and maybe Hawk too. The O Line, though, is a category. I don't think I ever bad-mouthed any individual O Lineman, not even Newhouse.

Mark my words: Janis is gonna have a good game and probably score at least one TD against KC - IF he actually does play a lot of snaps.


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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
None of you get a life. Just post smart stuff on PackersHome.com
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buckeyepackfan
9 years ago

Oops ....... I have to give you that one. You probably could dig up stuff on Brad Jones and maybe Hawk too. The O Line, though, is a category. I don't think I ever bad-mouthed any individual O Lineman, not even Newhouse.

Mark my words: Janis is gonna have a good game and probably score at least one TD against KC - IF he actually does play a lot of snaps.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



The O-line IS a unit!
You say how shitty they are, fact is the inner 3 are fast becoming the best in the league.
The Packers knew going into the last game they we're going to have trouble with the Seahawks d-line on the outside.
What you call "Aaron running for his life", is actually game planned in.

Aaron took advantage of the lanes the middle 3 opened up, and the aggresiveness of Bennet.

The Seahawks NEVER blitzed the whole game.

I think you will find this week's game to be different.

KC is An aggressive, blitzing team.

I'm betting Kuhn will see more time in the backfield to help in protection and The Packers will run more screens and misdirection.
(already said that)

Janis may benefit from this (if he plays) , by getting single coverage on some go routes.
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DarkaneRules
9 years ago
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PackerTraxx
9 years ago

This is LONG overdue. If he ever gets in there, they will never get him out.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Tex I really hope you're right on this one. A deep threat with our O would be huge, we don't have one now. It would keep D's from crowding the line.
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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

The O-line IS a unit!
You say how shitty they are, fact is the inner 3 are fast becoming the best in the league.
The Packers knew going into the last game they we're going to have trouble with the Seahawks d-line on the outside.
What you call "Aaron running for his life", is actually game planned in.

Aaron took advantage of the lanes the middle 3 opened up, and the aggresiveness of Bennet.

The Seahawks NEVER blitzed the whole game.

I think you will find this week's game to be different.

KC is An aggressive, blitzing team.

I'm betting Kuhn will see more time in the backfield to help in protection and The Packers will run more screens and misdirection.
(already said that)

Janis may benefit from this (if he plays) , by getting single coverage on some go routes.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Yes, the O Line is a unit - even though you go on to talk about the "inner 3" hahaha. At times in the past few years, that unit has been shitty - in the sense that Aaron Rodgers has to scramble and throw from outside the pocket (or where a pocket should be) on virtually every pass play and in the sense that way too often, our RBs don't have a hole to run through. This season, they have been a little bit better run blocking and no worse pass blocking. Just the same, though, if Aaron Rodgers wasn't so damn good at escaping and making plays, our O Line would be exposed as far from what you'd expect with a top level team. Is that criticizing the players? I don't know; The coaching? maybe some; The GM who built the team and gave us Aaron Rodgers? That's a taboo subject hahahaha. But the play of the O Line, it is what it is - probably good enough to win it all with Aaron Rodgers at QB.

The topic of this thread is Janis, though. Yeah, I don't doubt he will benefit from single coverage - MORE than any of the alternative WRs we could put on the field. He will also benefit from having the best QB in the history of the NFL throwing to him, but then you can say the same for any Packer receiver. I don't know about you detractors of Janis, but I'd rather see the ball in his hands after catching it 20 yards down field than somebody slower - even if that somebody didn't have a leg injury.

And I almost forgot the other point I was gonna make: Aaron Rodgers eats blitzes for lunch. Seattle was smart not to blitz. If KC chooses to blitz, bring it on!
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steveishere
9 years ago

Yes, the O Line is a unit - even though you go on to talk about the "inner 3" hahaha. At times in the past few years, that unit has been shitty - in the sense that Aaron Rodgers has to scramble and throw from outside the pocket (or where a pocket should be) on virtually every pass play and in the sense that way too often, our RBs don't have a hole to run through. This season, they have been a little bit better run blocking and no worse pass blocking. Just the same, though, if Aaron Rodgers wasn't so damn good at escaping and making plays, our O Line would be exposed as far from what you'd expect with a top level team. Is that criticizing the players? I don't know; The coaching? maybe some; The GM who built the team and gave us Aaron Rodgers? That's a taboo subject hahahaha. But the play of the O Line, it is what it is - probably good enough to win it all with Aaron Rodgers at QB.

The topic of this thread is Janis, though. Yeah, I don't doubt he will benefit from single coverage - MORE than any of the alternative WRs we could put on the field. He will also benefit from having the best QB in the history of the NFL throwing to him, but then you can say the same for any Packer receiver. I don't know about you detractors of Janis, but I'd rather see the ball in his hands after catching it 20 yards down field than somebody slower - even if that somebody didn't have a leg injury.

And I almost forgot the other point I was gonna make: Aaron Rodgers eats blitzes for lunch. Seattle was smart not to blitz. If KC chooses to blitz, bring it on!

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Rodgers scrambling does not automatically mean the offensive line was bad. Last year he held the ball on average over 5 and a half seconds before he scrambled which was the 5th longest time in the NFL. I'm not one of those people who is negative about Rodgers "holding the ball too long" because he does amazing things when he does it but the fact is he does hold the ball for a long time typically which gives defenders more time to get to him which means defenders are going to reach him more often regardless of how well the line does.

Saying he had to run out of the pocket sometimes therefore the line was bad without adding any context to it is meaningless.
beast
9 years ago

None of you get a life. Just post smart stuff on PackersHome.com

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



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beast
9 years ago

This is LONG overdue. If he ever gets in there, they will never get him out.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



They had him there (as the 4th WR) after Jordy went down...

and they didn't like it so they brought in James Jones to make him the 5th WR again...

Adams went down so he became the 4th WR for a short period of time.
Janis has a ton of physical potential, but he still doesn't play up to that physical potential... hopefully another offseason or two and he'll have a huge breakout and who knows, maybe replace Nelson. But until that happens it seems like he's best as a 5th WR.

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