Gunter, Harris make the cut as undrafted free agents· Page 2

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

It has to be related to special teams performance. I cannot think of anything else, yet I don't study film.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules

I'm going to side with this being spot-on correct. The Packers wanted a thumper to come in and hurt someone instead of having someone dance around. I do believe Rajon Neal is the better running back, although, if I need to wear down a defense or punish someone, I would have to go with Alonzo Harris.

beast
Select Member

9 years ago

#12

Ted Thompson seems to he emphasized special teams which is likely why they kept the two fullbacks.

Originally Posted by: millertime

I keep reading ideas how keeping two FBs was part of some master plan... when I think it's a lot more simpler than that.

I think both FBs were simply in the best 53 ... and were clearly better than guys completing for 3rd TE, and 4th ILB spots and might of been part of the best 46 and not even on the roster bubble but clearly already in coming into the 4th preseason game.

TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#13

Great we can increase our ST from last to.....last but a bit better. I'd think improving our offense is the better overall move.

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#14

I don't recall seeing Harris do anything special on kick returns - not visible like Ripkowski for example. Maybe in the wedge on receiving kickoffs, but it's hard to believe Crockett couldn't do that just as well. What stood out to me was that Harris never side-stepped at all - just ran like a bull. Crockett on the other hand, ran hard but did manage to avoid a few hits. Oh well, Harris it is.

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nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#15

Great we can increase our ST from last to.....last but a bit better. I'd think improving our offense is the better overall move.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla

We better improve in short yardage too.

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steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#16

The only logical conclusion we can make of the Harris selection over Crockett and Neal is that all we want is a power running game and do not intend to use our backs in the passing game. Crockett and Neal both ran those screen plays very well, and I am confused by Harris beating either of them out.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Why is that the only logical conclusion? We are talking the #3 RB here. They have used Lacy and Starks quite a bit to catch passes last year I don't see that changing this year because Alonzo Harris is our #3 instead of DuJuan Harris. They more likely just took the guy they thought is going to make a better running back.

beast
Select Member

9 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Yes and got to also remember who the coach is as well... FB Sam Gash

The former sledgehammer of a fullback, Gash blocked for Curtis Martin from 1995-97 and Jamal Lewis in 2000 and 2002. He's one major reason Martin's career started with such a bang. Those three seasons—Martin's first in the NFL—the Canton-bound back rushed for 3,799 yards with 37 touchdowns and reached one Super Bowl

gazettextra.com wrote:

So let's see.... coach Gash has blocked for...

~ Curtis Martin (no non-sense, straight north / south runner and Hall of Fame Induction: 2012)
~ Antowain Smith (big boy at 6'2" ...230+ pounds)
~ Thurman Thomas (past his prime but still going and Hall of Fame Induction: 2007)
~ Jamal Lewis (big back who ran downhill at 245 and while is not in the Hall of Fame I think some could make a case that if only judged by his on the field play should be there some day)
~ Travis Henry (another physical runner, and barely 5’9” and he was 230 lbs)

So if Gash wants players like he played with, then 235+ pound, hard nose, hard running, down hill physical, Alonzo Harris fits right in!

Also interesting facts I didn't know...
Curtis Martin and Mike McCarty were both at the University of Pittsburgh for two years at the same time.
Alex Van Pelt and Sam Gash were both on the Bills at the same time.

beast
Select Member

9 years ago

#18

Why is that the only logical conclusion? We are talking the #3 RB here. They have used Lacy and Starks quite a bit to catch passes last year I don't see that changing this year because Alonzo Harris is our #3 instead of DuJuan Harris. They more likely just took the guy they thought is going to make a better running back.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

I completely agree! ... I think people are trying to make the reasoning too complex when the Packers probably just kept the players they thought had proven themselves better in their eyes.

That being said the Packers RB eyes could be focuses on powerful RB play with less dancing and more one cut get north and south!

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