We lost a true #1 WR:

1500 Yards,
13 TDs,
6 DPI calls for 129,
ZERO fumbles
a 2.7 drop rate only bested by a handful of WRs,
7th in YAC,
with only 2 penalties in 3 years for 10 yards,
repeat 2 penalties in 3 years,
and a blocking fool and
one who TWICE took less to stay in GB

and what Steve said [“that little push off he gets away with all the time, working his way through traffic, beating jams”]

and what Nerd said [Getting his feet down in bounds. Going up for the ball, sacrificing his body over the middle, catching with his hands. Meeting the ball at it's high point. Knowing the whole route tree. Intangible communication with Aaron”]

and what Tundra said [What about that subtle little head fake Jordy does?]

and to add to Nerd, Aaron Rodgers throws those freakin’ balls out of bounds 25-30 yards downfield on purpose and Jordy is laying out and catchin’ em. UNPRECEDENTED!!!

Did ya see him race down on Lacy’s 56 yrd screen pass TD against Bears to block?

Plus and absolute stud leader in the room and all around great guy, a man!

A #2 WR? LOL, damn, Is a #1 WR some fictional unattainable part of some wet-dreamed wayward NFL perfection fantasy fu(k. LOL Damn!

Jordy might be a #2 if his ACL is torn and Jerry Rice in his prime is on the team.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 

We lost a true #1 WR:

1500 Yards,
13 TDs,
6 DPI calls for 129,
ZERO fumbles
a 2.7 drop rate only bested by a handful of WRs,
7th in YAC,
with only 2 penalties in 3 years for 10 yards,
repeat 2 penalties in 3 years,
and a blocking fool and
one who TWICE took less to stay in GB

and what Steve said [“that little push off he gets away with all the time, working his way through traffic, beating jams”]

and what Nerd said [Getting his feet down in bounds. Going up for the ball, sacrificing his body over the middle, catching with his hands. Meeting the ball at it's high point. Knowing the whole route tree. Intangible communication with Aaron”]

and what Tundra said [What about that subtle little head fake Jordy does?]

and to add to Nerd, Aaron Rodgers throws those freakin’ balls out of bounds 25-30 yards downfield on purpose and Jordy is laying out and catchin’ em. UNPRECEDENTED!!!

Did ya see him race down on Lacy’s 56 yrd screen pass TD against Bears to block?

Plus and absolute stud leader in the room and all around great guy, a man!

A #2 WR? LOL, damn, Is a #1 WR some fictional unattainable part of some wet-dreamed wayward NFL perfection fantasy fu(k. LOL Damn!

Jordy might be a #2 if his ACL is torn and Jerry Rice in his prime is on the team.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 

And what all_about_da_packers said [Sorry i forgot your post ]!

And now Jordy has said he's gonna help the yougins. This guy wont take a snap and he'll get the 2015 team an extra 800 yards and 5 TDs and eliminate 6 INTs and make guys better that'll have a shot at takin' his job next year. Now THAT is a #1 receiver.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 

So how many #1 WRs are there if Jordy Nelson isn't one of them? Two or three in the entire NFL? Is this one of those retarded comparing to perfection rather than reality things? Might as well say he's not a #0 WR, would make as much sense.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 

You'll have to define what you actually mean by #1 WR, because it's clear you think it's something different than nearly any other reasonable person does. Typically, a team's #1 WR is the WR that gets the most production in a given year. Jordy Nelson is most definitely that. That's a simplistic view of it though, because some teams do not have a #1 WR that would be even the #2 or #3 on other teams. The Packers do not fall into that category, Jordy Nelson would be a starter, and would produce on many teams in the NFL.

Randal Cobb is borderline, he would probably start on a lot of teams in the NFL but he might start as the #2 rather than the #1.

Now, if you want to say Jordy Nelson is not an elite WR, that's something that I would say you could at least make a case for. Even then you would have to define what you mean by elite (top 5 currently, all time, etc). But not a #1 WR? That's simpy ridiculous. Again, if Jordy Nelson is not a #1 WR, how many are there in the NFL and who are they?

Originally Posted by: earthquake 

I've given you my opinion on what constitutes a #1 WR. Davante is now our nominal #1 WR. A guy who gets the most stats for a particular team is nominally the #1 WR, but is he a true #1 WR? You ignored my argument, completely, for why I don't think he's a 1 and then came back next post and ask me to explain my rationale. Again, is any defensive coordinator up at night concerned about what Jordy Nelson is going to do to his defense the same way he would over Dez Bryant, Calvin Johnson, Odell Beckham, or guys like Randy Moss...or our own Sterling Sharpe. The guy. Jordy is not THE GUY... heck, it is and was a major debate over who you'd want to keep him or Cobb if you could only choose one. The issue wasn't that they were both 1's...the issue that caused the debate is neither of them were.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

I ignored your "argument" because it is preposterous, none of your points can be either proved or disproved in an objective manner. Your reasoning is subjective nonsense built on nothing but conjecture. The level to which DC's game plan for Jordy Nelson is impossible to know and certainly not something you can gleam by watching the game on TV.

Anyway, it's clear that you mean elite WR when you say #1 WR, so I guess we'll simply have to disagree with how we use these terms.

The argument with Nelson VS Cobb was do you keep a #1 WR in his prime or do you go for a younger player who probably hasn't hit his ceiling yet, with the potential to be your #1 WR for a longer period of time. Cobb is 25 years old and could yet develop into a better WR/have a better career than Nelson. He'll get his shot to establish himself as a #1 this year, it will be interesting to see what he does with that opportunity.

Originally Posted by: earthquake