luigis
9 years ago
Exercise: Imagine pre-season didn't start yet. Make a list of the starters that would hurt the most our team if they are lost for the season.


Here's mine:

1. A. Rodgers
2. Bakthiari/Bulaga
3. S. Shields (I don't trust the others to cover the best WR)
4. E. Lacy
5. J. Nelson
6. R. Rodgers
7. R. Cobb
8. M.Crosby

I'm surprised only shields is from the defense, CM3, all the LBs,DLs, Safeties, CBs, they all rotate a lot and I think any of them can be lost without a huge impact in our season. I'm not sure if that speaks well or bad about our defense.

Luis.

Luis
nerdmann
9 years ago
Jordy was #7 on Rodney's list.  
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uffda udfa
9 years ago

Jordy was #7 on Rodney's list.  

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I have Sitton in where Bakttiari is. The rest I agree with but I have Lacy 2nd...actually have Raji in my Top 7 instead of Bakhtiari. Shields would be a little further down my list, too.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


Porforis
9 years ago
Losing Jordy hurts bad, but think of it this way.

Dropoff between Jordy and Cobb is low
Dropoff between Cobb and Adams, with what we know from Adams last year is Moderate. Potential for Adams to turn that into low.
Dropoff between what we know about Adams to what we know about Montgomery is low

Issue isn't so much that there's a huge dropoff beneath Jordy on the depthchart (and beneath cobb, etc etc etc) since the roster is extremely deep in that position, but that unless if Adams turns in a 2014 Cobb performance, it puts pressure on everyone underneath by not having the one-two Cobb-Jordy punch. Having Cobb-Jordy made it easier on everyone else.

Next man up. Hope these young guys pull through.
DoddPower
9 years ago
Walter Football has Jordy Nelson as the 4th most overrated player in the NFL.  

4.) Jordy Nelson, WR, Packers

Jordy Nelson has eclipsed 1,300 yards in each of the past two seasons. In the past four years, he has scored a whopping 43 touchdowns. Thus, it may seem like a blasphemous act that I'd place him so high on the overrated list, but he definitely belongs here.

Nelson is a solid receiver. Again, just because I've designated him as overrated doesn't mean I think he sucks. He's just not as great as everyone thinks he is, and based on the NFL Top 100 Players list, many hold him in extremely high regard. He was actually voted as the 18th-best player in the NFL, which is just absurd. Perhaps he's the 18th-best fantasy player, but in real life? No way.

Nelson wouldn't even come close to his crazy stats without Aaron Rodgers, and there is evidence behind that. When Rodgers missed time in 2013, Nelson was limited to 61 or fewer yards in five of the seven games in which his starting quarterback was out of the lineup. Does that sound like the No. 18 player in the NFL to you?

Walter Football wrote:

texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
I bet most opponents didn't overrate him - more like they thought they could handle him and couldn't.

A lot of names mentioned in just these few posts who NO WAY would be on my list. Crosby, for example, kickers who are 95%, maybe even 100% of Crosby's quality are all over the place looking for teams to sign with, and many more will be cut soon. Look at Pittsburgh when Suisham went down. Raji? Do I even need to say anything hahahaha? Shields is good, but we are about as loaded at Corner as we are at WR. And Richard Rodgers? Arguably Quarless is better.

My List: - Everybody's #1 is Aaron Rodgers.

2. Sitton
3. Clay Matthews - People shouldn't be so negative about him.
4. Lacy - If you assume we should have a power runner, there is none better.
5. Shields - even if we do have good replacements
6. Bulaga/Bakhtiari - just because we have so little backing them up; They, Bakhtiari especially, are not that special.
7. Daniels - arguably the ONLY quality D Lineman
8. Peppers - Even in old age and with a lot of decent backups, he is still unique and great.
9. Barrington - Look at ILB before he stepped up - now it's better.
10.Any other O Lineman - Continuity there more than any other position is important to success, plus, we have a lot of real question marks for backups.

Edit: oops I forgot Nelson and Cobb - probably about 7 to 10.
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nerdmann
9 years ago
1: Aaron Rodgers
2: Bakhtiari/Bulaga
3: Cobb
4: Richard Rodgers
5: Clay Matthews
6: Eddie Lacy
7: Any of the Dbacks
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