NFL Player Evaluating· Page 7

steveishere
Veteran Member

10 years ago

This stat line here is going to make EVERY Green Bay Packers fan disregard EVERYTHING ProFootballFocus.com ever grades, ever again!

I'm going to list off the top five graded 3 - 4 outside linebackers for the 2014 post season snaps ONLY.

[list=1]

Erik Walden (118 snaps) +6.3

James Harrison (52 snaps) +5.5

Julius Peppers (35 snaps) +4.0

Terrell Suggs (108 snaps) +3.6

Pernell McPhee (76 snaps) +2.4[/list]

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I'm not surprised actually. When I was watching that game yesterday it looked like Walden was whipping Denvers RT pretty bad.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#62

Here's a write up about "The ultimate outsider—an Englishman who never played the game—abandoned a profitable business to run an NFL advanced stats website. In just a few years he’s gone from 80 page views a week to overseeing an international staff of 80 that’s helping to transform the league"

A little snippet some might find interesting.

“What really impressed me is the fact that 13 NFL teams have contracted with Pro Football Focus for their data,” Collinsworth told The MMQB last August, after becoming a business partner. “I have been around the NFL for over 30 years, I know how hard it is to get behind the wall of those teams. And they’ve got 13 teams to trust their data. That’s huge.”

http://mmqb.si.com/2015/01/25/pro-football-focus-nfl-neil-hornsby-cris-collinsworth-analytics/

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#63

They've updated their site and provided pictures to help people understand their method.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/about/how-we-grade/

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#64

Erik Walden... Erik freaking Walden...

...and that is all the people need to know...

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#65

Erik Walden... Erik freaking Walden...

...and that is all the people need to know...

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

If it was 100% accurate, don't you think the NFL would be the most secure employment in the damn world? I'm going to help you, because I care and because I am a nice fella. The only thing that is 100% in the NFL is the team with more points, wins. Aside from that, everything has an "exception" to every "rule".

Majority wins out. And when NFL teams are trusting the values, we are going to side with that majority over one person griping over one player. 🤬

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#66

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Erik Walden...hey, he may have improved. May be elite now.

I've already said my piece months ago on how I feel about PFF.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#67

Erik Walden...hey, he may have improved. May be elite now.

I've already said my piece months ago on how I feel about PFF.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I wouldn't call being slotted 37th among 3 - 4 OLB anything close to being elite. You go ahead and continue to slight an analysis you don't even review.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#68

I wouldn't call being slotted 37th among 3 - 4 OLB anything close to being elite. You go ahead and continue to slight an analysis you don't even review.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

If you mean I'm not a subscriber/sucker then you're correct. There stats have been out there for years and I've looked at them and smiled.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#69

If you mean I'm not a subscriber/sucker then you're correct. There stats have been out there for years and I've looked at them and smiled.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Obviously you haven't because Walden ranked last two years in a row and hasn't ranked better than 32nd. What argument do you have now? Fill me in on what I am missing here.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#70

My thoughts on PFF are well documented. I would have more respect for the site if YOU ran it. That's no joke. Some nerdlinger who doesn't know football runs an analytic site that some teams in the NFL use. Some don't use it.

You like it... I don't have a whole lot of respect for it.

Our org does it's own grading but perhaps uses this as a supplement? I don't know. I would hope we don't use this. I would hope we have real football people grading real nfl players involved in real nfl plays and that is our sole method for grading our team.

Again, I don't have much respect for the site.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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