The point is, if you trust PFF, and obviously your mind is made up, then it's curious that they had EDS rated very highly after his performance last season. Did anyone here or even the Packers themselves think very highly of EDS? No. He left for Tampa on a modest contract we could've easily afforded to give him. Why didn't we? He wasn't very good. Yet, PFF had him graded very highly. Saying ESPN and whomever publish their rating doesn't tell me if these guys are credible or not. Who are they? Fans like ones you'd find on boards like this? Who exactly are they?
I'm not saying Linsley isn't a good center. I'm saying fans get all whooped up on players because they are TOLD they're good without recognizing one way or the other if that's true. In my humble estimation, Linsley does a decent job for us...not a major liability. I don't see him as a dominating or game changing player for us. Perhaps, he'll grow into being one.
Again, the 2013 ranking for EDS was 14.6...right now Linsely is rated 11.0. To me, that discredits PFF's center ratings IF you're trying to validate that Linsley is good by virtue of PFF's 2014 center rankings. Clearly, their rankings of EDS were not reflective of the player EDS was. If 14.6 is supposed to be wonderful and I believe the guy to be no better than average, I hardly respect an 11.0 rating for Linsley.
Originally Posted by: uffda udfa
Again, you said Packers fans over value Corey Linsley.
I shared ratings from a source (who btw is quite respected for their ratings) outside of the Packers fans that state Linsely has done well this season compared to other Centers.
I also pointed out that I am ignorant when it comes to the play of offensive line.
You said one thing about the fans of the Packers and I showed you it is not just the fans of the Packers who think Linsely has done a decent playing the Center position this season. What's the problem here?
Evan Dietrich-Smith earned a 14.8 rating during the 2013 season and you somehow twist that into ProFootballFocus being credit-less? Based on what exactly? Your opinion? I guess I don't understand what credentials you have.
ProFootballFocus has a staff that watches more than 256 games every year and analyzes every player on every snap and are widely respected for their ratings. Then we have you. No player evaluation credentials whatsoever. Gee, who knows more their stuff more? lol [grin1]
You bring up a point about the Packers retaining the services of Evan Dietrich-Smith.
First, lets compare contracts.
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J.C. Tretter signed a 4 year / $2.58 million contract with the Green Bay Packers, including a $415,908 signing bonus, $415,908 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $643,977.Evan Dietrich-Smith signed a 4 year / $14.25 million contract with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, including $7,250,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $3,562,500.[/list]Then, do we know if Evan Dietrich-Smith wanted to leave?
Finally, do we know if the Packers felt equally confident with J.C. Tretter (at a lower salary) to perform equally or better than Dietrich-Smith?
Wow, okay then, that clears things up, yes?
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say since the Packers were high on J.C. Tretter at the Center position, they felt they could get similar on field results at a fraction of the cost. We all agree that the ~$3 million saved on by not matching Buccaneers offer is more adequately spent on Jordy Nelson's contract.