nerdmann
9 years ago

During a punt-return period, neither Ty Montgomery nor Jeff Janis worked as return men. Instead, they worked as line-of-scrimmage players who can rush or block — Janis with the No. 1 return unit and Montgomery with the No. 2.

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beast
9 years ago

During a punt-return period, neither Ty Montgomery nor Jeff Janis worked as return men. Instead, they worked as line-of-scrimmage players who can rush or block — Janis with the No. 1 return unit and Montgomery with the No. 2. The Packers drafted Montgomery in the third round in part because of his return abilities, though they might view him as more of a kickoff returner than punt returner. He had a 25.2-yard average on 27 kickoff returns at Stanford, and a 19.8-yard average on 12 punt returns. The six players catching punts were Hyde, Randall Cobb, Blue, Larry Pinkard, Raijon Neal and Hunt.



I'm a bit surprised that Montgomery and Janis didn't even practice it, but I'm not shocked about it. Last year Janis didn't seem to move quick enough after the catching the punt and while Montgomery is thought of as a return specialist, he needs to work on his hands and catching the ball, which is most likely to turn to turn overs on punt returns. In fact, I think in their college game against each other, Montgomery muffed a punt catch and Randall (as a ST gunner) then came in and pushed him away from the ball before dropping down onto it. Montgomery needs to work on catching it.

Reports have been that Neal has shown really good hands in the passing game and kick return game, haven't heard about him on punts until now. But I think Neal is most likely the 3rd RB if he stays healthy.
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nyrpack
9 years ago
if janis wants to make this team he better show he has alot to bring to the table other then wr skills !!
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steveishere
9 years ago

if janis wants to make this team he better show he has alot to bring to the table other then wr skills !!

Originally Posted by: nyrpack 



I think Janis has actually been a gunner for the 1st string punt coverage teams. Between Hyde and Cobb we don't really need any new punt returners anyways.
Mucky Tundra
9 years ago
TBH, I wish we'd just leave Hyde back there. He may not be fast but he's looked far more natural at it than any other of the people we've had on returns the past few years.
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beast
9 years ago

I think Janis has actually been a gunner for the 1st string punt coverage teams. Between Hyde and Cobb we don't really need any new punt returners anyways.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



I think Janis and Goodson worked with the 1st team as gunners but I think that's mainly the coaches trying to work guys in there and seeing what they have to replace Bush with. I think Richardson will be one of the gunners come game time as he did such a good job at it last year. But if he can get off the jam and tackle, in theory Janis might make a good gunner with that speed.

As for Janis returning, I thought was getting a slow start after catching punts last preseason but thought he looked very impressive in his kick returns and wonder why he hasn't gotten more chances at doing that at I thought he was clearly better than RB Harris who they had doing it last year.

TBH, I wish we'd just leave Hyde back there. He may not be fast but he's looked far more natural at it than any other of the people we've had on returns the past few years.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



I agree with that, I was wondering why they were rotating Hyde and Cobb last year, instead of letting Hyde have all the punt returns.

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