nerdmann
9 years ago

John Kuhn has spent eight of his nine seasons in the NFL with the Green Bay Packers, and signed a one-year contract to remain with the Packers in 2015. Despite having only a limited role with the team, Kuhn is definitely a fan favorite and one of the most recognizable players on Green Bay’s roster.

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I've been prepared for three years now. I'm also prepared to get rid of that short yardage hand off FB dive play.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
The asset that John Kuhn provides is excellent pass protection. That's why he's lasted as long as he has combined with solid Special Teams play. Elite QB'd teams hold higher priority on their RB stable to pass protect more than shake and bake for 4 yards per carry.
musccy
9 years ago

The asset that John Kuhn provides is excellent pass protection. That's why he's lasted as long as he has combined with solid Special Teams play. Elite QB'd teams hold higher priority on their RB stable to pass protect more than shake and bake for 4 yards per carry.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I get that and that he blocked Peppers in 2013, but you can't waste a a 53 or 46 spot for what he provides...any rb should be able to pass protect and we've got a stable full of wrs, dbs, and lbs who should/could be competent special teamers.
Zero2Cool
9 years ago

I get that and that he blocked Peppers in 2013, but you can't waste a a 53 or 46 spot for what he provides...any rb should be able to pass protect and we've got a stable full of wrs, dbs, and lbs who should/could be competent special teamers.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Our FB's are 246 and 250 and the heaviest WR is 219 and heaviest DB is 216. You do not want to give up that 20-25 pounds while trying to fend off Defensive Linemen and Linebackers.

Until a TE or another FB can provide the same value that John Kuhn does, he will have a roster spot, unless he prices himself out of the league.
texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
Regarding roster spots, it's extremely unlikely the Packers would go with no fullback on the roster, so Kuhn is not wasting a roster spot. The question would be, is he preventing some talented young fullback from sticking to the roster? I predict that Ripkowski, unless he shows he doesn't deserve it, gets "stashed" for one year - practice squad maybe, or injured reserve if that's what it takes. Then, when he is ready, Life without Kuhn starts in 2016.
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PackerTraxx
9 years ago

Regarding roster spots, it's extremely unlikely the Packers would go with no fullback on the roster, so Kuhn is not wasting a roster spot. The question would be, is he preventing some talented young fullback from sticking to the roster? I predict that Ripkowski, unless he shows he doesn't deserve it, gets "stashed" for one year - practice squad maybe, or injured reserve if that's what it takes. Then, when he is ready, Life without Kuhn starts in 2016.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Makes sense to me.😁

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musccy
9 years ago

Our FB's are 246 and 250 and the heaviest WR is 219 and heaviest DB is 216. You do not want to give up that 20-25 pounds while trying to fend off Defensive Linemen and Linebackers.

Until a TE or another FB can provide the same value that John Kuhn does, he will have a roster spot, unless he prices himself out of the league.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Being heavy isn't the only requirement for contributing to ST. Besides, we have a barn load of LBs right now along with a few TEs who will be relegated to some blocking duties with the abundance of pass catching threats on the team now.

If Kuhn can outperform Ripkowski and provide a versatile role, great, I have nothing against Kuhn. He is the epitome of "Packer People" at a time when the team has taken a hit in that department. I'm just not sure his athleticism is providing much of an upgrade over what a number of others could provide.
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