uffda udfa
9 years ago

So, you're saying combine numbers don't matter?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Nope. I expected this response...just wasn't sure who was going to post it.

I'm not sure why Finley ran so poor there. He was clearly faster than Rodgers could ever dream of being. Will have to look into why his 40 time was so poor.

EDIT: It was kind of fun reading this old Texas Longhorn's forum thread on his combine performance. Finley was pretty much what these guys said he was. Said it looked like JF had no clue how to run a 40 and was not prepared or into it at all.

http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/archive/index.php/t-3659.html 

Watch him run the 40...looked like he was jogging the majority of it.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap2000000140295/2008-NFL-Scouting-Combine-Jermichael-Finley 
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nerdmann
9 years ago

Nope. I expected this response...just wasn't sure who was going to post it.

I'm not sure why Finley ran so poor there. He was clearly faster than Rodgers could ever dream of being. Will have to look into why his 40 time was so poor.

EDIT: It was kind of fun reading this old Texas Longhorn's forum thread on his combine performance. Finley was pretty much what these guys said he was. Said it looked like JF had no clue how to run a 40 and was not prepared or into it at all.

http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/archive/index.php/t-3659.html 

Watch him run the 40...looked like he was jogging the majority of it.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap2000000140295/2008-NFL-Scouting-Combine-Jermichael-Finley 

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



More excuses. Have to say I'm not surprised.

RR is a fine player, and he's going to help this offense be successful.
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buckeyepackfan
9 years ago

Nope. I expected this response...just wasn't sure who was going to post it.

I'm not sure why Finley ran so poor there. He was clearly faster than Rodgers could ever dream of being. Will have to look into why his 40 time was so poor.

EDIT: It was kind of fun reading this old Texas Longhorn's forum thread on his combine performance. Finley was pretty much what these guys said he was. Said it looked like JF had no clue how to run a 40 and was not prepared or into it at all.

http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/archive/index.php/t-3659.html 

Watch him run the 40...looked like he was jogging the majority of it.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap2000000140295/2008-NFL-Scouting-Combine-Jermichael-Finley 

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



So Jermicheal Finleys 40 meant nothing, Richard Rogers 40 means everything and that is all you use to talk bad about him.
GOT IT.
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voiceofreason
9 years ago
I think Finley had a higher ceiling, but he was always so inconsistent. RR is young so the jury is still way out there, but I think he will be a good player. If he can become a consistent chain mover and red zone threat he could easily eclipse Finley's injury shortened legacy.
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uffda udfa
9 years ago

So Jermicheal Finleys 40 meant nothing, Richard Rogers 40 means everything and that is all you use to talk bad about him.
GOT IT.
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MORE UFFDA BULLSHIT!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Did I say Finley's 40 meant nothing? No. Did you watch him run? His Longhorn faithful ripped him for not knowing how to run one and looking out of it and disinterested.

Richard Rodgers is a marginal NFL TE but because he plays for the Packers he looks like Shannon Sharpe.

These ratings I see of our players is very similar to how guys rate women after they've been drinking all night. Those ratings are way off.

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voiceofreason
9 years ago

Did I say Finley's 40 meant nothing? No. Did you watch him run? His Longhorn faithful ripped him for not knowing how to run one and looking out of it and disinterested.

Richard Rodgers is a marginal NFL TE but because he plays for the Packers he looks like Shannon Sharpe.

These ratings I see of our players is very similar to how guys rate women after they've been drinking all night. Those ratings are way off.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 




Whoa buddy, just because I think a second year 3rd round pick has potential I am a fool with beer goggles? What secret knowledge of RR do you hold that makes my OPINION so foolish.


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uffda udfa
9 years ago

Whoa buddy, just because I think a second year 3rd round pick has potential I am a fool with beer goggles? What secret knowledge of RR do you hold that makes my OPINION so foolish.

Originally Posted by: voiceofreason 



It wasn't directed at you, VOR... it is the mentality here that if ANY rookie shows up on this team who was a reasonably high draft choice he's immediately anointed as really going to be something, if he ain't already. It's nauseating.

Richard Rodgers possesses no outstanding qualities...he's an average TE in a league filled with them. I want to know why he's somehow better than an average TE other than the fact he plays for Green Bay?
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voiceofreason
9 years ago

It wasn't directed at you, VOR... it is the mentality here that if ANY rookie shows up on this team who was a reasonably high draft choice he's immediately anointed as really going to be something, if he ain't already. It's nauseating.

Richard Rodgers possesses no outstanding qualities...he's an average TE in a league filled with them. I want to know why he's somehow better than an average TE other than the fact he plays for Green Bay?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



As a 3rd round pick he should absolutely have potential. Finley was also a 3rd round pick. Just because RR is slower than Finley does not mean he cannot have just as much, if not more impact. The only reason you speak of him as an afterthought is because you didn't want to draft him. Our GM has a great track record of drafting pass catchers in the second and third round. Why would I doubt him before giving the kid a chance to play?


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Bigbyfan
9 years ago

As a 3rd round pick he should absolutely have potential. Finley was also a 3rd round pick. Just because RR is slower than Finley does not mean he cannot have just as much, if not more impact. The only reason you speak of him as an afterthought is because you didn't want to draft him. Our GM has a great track record of drafting pass catchers in the second and third round. Why would I doubt him before giving the kid a chance to play?

Originally Posted by: voiceofreason 



Because he is Al Davis' long lost son. If the player doesn't have an amazing 40 time, there's no point in having him on the team.
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uffda udfa
9 years ago

As a 3rd round pick he should absolutely have potential. Finley was also a 3rd round pick. Just because RR is slower than Finley does not mean he cannot have just as much, if not more impact. The only reason you speak of him as an afterthought is because you didn't want to draft him. Our GM has a great track record of drafting pass catchers in the second and third round. Why would I doubt him before giving the kid a chance to play?

Originally Posted by: voiceofreason 



I already stated my case. We all watched him last year. How could you conclude that he was ever going to be anything special? sschind posted some very damning statistics from PFF (which I don't really hold a lot of respect for) but they echo and mirror my thoughts that he wasn't very good at all last season. Meanwhile, the hype train on this kid rolls on for no other reason other than he's a Green Bay Packer. Now, despite of what we've seen last year, you have posted more of what I'm talking about by saying because our GM has a good track record. Yup, true. That has nothing to do with what we saw last year. Past results also don't guarantee future success. Finley and Rodgers being drafted in the same round has nothing to do with anything.

What is it that you personally have seen that has you excited in the least? What? There's nothing there but romanti fanticism that this guy is a high Packers draft pick.

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