Richard Rodgers > Jermichael Finley?· Page 2

Barfarn
Senior Member

10 years ago

At combine Rodgers ran a 4.87... Finley ran a 4.82.

.05 seconds over 40 yards determines whether a guy can stretch the field? I think not. This can easily be made up by knowing your assignment and having a feel for when the defender to get open. Again a receiver achieves meaningful separation with his mind, not his legs.

Ya gotta watch the game! Dont look at 4o times and build an entire dossier for a player's career. Decide how fast he is by observing how he moves relative to other players. Jordy supposedly ran a 4.51 at the combine; do ya remember Lacey's long screen TD against the Bears and Jordy came zooming up running by everyone to block for Eddie like they were all standing still? Speed is important, Jordy has speed that is not reflected in that 4.51.

Rodgers is an infinitely better route runner and receiver than Finley and he will be a better blocker. Plus Finley was not a cancer in any way, but he was a knucklehead; Rodgers is a man. And if you look at Rodgers' Cal highlights; it is a certainty that he'll be capable to stretch the field as well as Finley.

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#12

Originally Posted by: Barfarn

And when the snow is falling and the field is muddy, no one's running a 4.3. You want that steady guy, who can stay on his feet.

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texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#13

It wouldn't take much to be better than Finley - a large disappointment for the Packers. Richard Rodgers comes with lower expectations, so he's less likely to disappoint. If that = >, then I guess he is.

The less TEs getting snaps the better for the Packers. We should have at least 6 excellent wideouts this season, any one of which I'd much rather see targeted with a pass than Rodgers or Quarless or Finley in his prime for that matter.

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buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#14

Here we go again, for the umpteenth Time about combine numbers.

You play Madden, combine numbers matter.

Want to talk about real football, what matters is technique, the ability to absorb information, take that information to the field and become a cog in the scheme!

Davante Adams said it best in the one article about his progress from year one to year two.

Leading up to the draft all his training was geared toward putting up good combine numbers.

Those numbers got him drafted.

Leading up to this years OTA's, he worked on his techniques, studied the playbook, trained to get in better football shape.

Simply putting it, that jump coaches expect between year one and year two.

R. Rodgers did the same.

Adams really jumped out in the OTA's

Rodgers showed improvement.

IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY FUCKING COMBINE NUMBERS!

As far as RR being better than JF.
He stays healthy and keeps working on his game, he will become just as important a piece of the puzzle That Findley ever was.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

10 years ago

#15

Aaron thought Finley could be one of the all time greats. He was wrong, as usual... I'll bet 12 never says this of RR:

“We're talking about one or two plays. But I think he can be great, and I wouldn't be saying that if I didn't believe he could be one of the greatest tight ends to ever line it up.” --Aaron Rodgers on Jermichael Finley

---From ESPNmilwaukee.com

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

How was Aaron Rodgers wrong? Was he to predict a freak neck injury that would end Jermichael Finley's career? Defenses were scheming around stopping Finley which opened a lot of things on the perimeter. Finley could have had a great career if not for the neck injury and it would immensely naive to ignore his value outside the numbers.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

The last thing I would ever do is ignore Finley's impact outside the numbers. I made a point of that in my initial response to nerd's OP.

I was a huge Finley guy but I recognize that NOBODY is lamenting the end of his career based on the idea that he would've been one of the all time greats. I don't. The guy flashed huge in the playoff game at Arizona. That was the apex of his career. He was far more potential than he was reality. He had terrible hands that caused key drops. It's too bad he wasn't more mature and brighter.

As for RR, we could've just drafted Crockett Gilmore and people would be typing the same things they are of RR right now...put almost any TE in RR's place and time in the draft and people would be saying the same things they are saying of RR. What is his big calling card that makes him any different than just an average TE? What are those attributes that he possesses that set him apart from what would be a nominal starting TE in this league? I do watch the games and I don't see them.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

10 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

You know I just remembered something that will pee in the Richard Rodgers cheerio's. Aaron said Finley had very good hands in practice and probably the best on the team early in Finley's career. Uh-oh.

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: Barfarn

Soure : 4.82

Imagine a guy with comparable speed to Finley, who actually knows the play book, knows how to run routes (WR in college) and shuts his pie hole.

Sounds like a guy who can get it done.

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uffda udfa
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#19

Soure : 4.82

Imagine a guy with comparable speed to Finley, who actually knows the play book, knows how to run routes (WR in college) and shuts his pie hole.

Sounds like a guy who can get it done.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

You think Finley and Rodgers have comparable speed? You never saw RR run, then. I think I might be able to beat him in a race and I'm not joking.

RR is any of a number of TE's floating around out there in the NFL. He's only something here because he plays for the Packers.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

So, you're saying combine numbers don't matter?

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