No didn't know The Graham love affair w/ Jimmy G has been long standing.

And Z2C is right; if we signed Graham and he was on hands team; upon the ball being kicked to him, Jimmy not wanting any contact would have done and ola' and let Nelson get the ball. Of course, remember we're MINUS Nelson and he'd undoubtedly be playing for our adversary in the NFC Champ game allowing them to go to SB.

Having Jordy do that to us would have been worse...LOL

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 

I spoke to what I believe Jimmy G would do for us in the red zone. That alone would justify a move for him considering how much we need a real red zone threat. You take a guy with Jimmy's size and ability and give him to a QB with Rodgers precision and what do you think that result is going to be? Touchdowns aplenty. I'll take that over Mason Crosby trotting out every other drive.

Jimmy Graham at TE would've left us with TWO superstars at WR...Jordy and Davante. Haven't you heard that Davante is pretty much better than Nelson and Cobb combined already? MVP of OTA's.

We'll see how Graham does in Seattle and RR does in Green Bay. I have a feeling it ain't gonna be close. Wish we had the Golden Graham.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

I agree, it probably won't be close but you are going to compare the stats of the likely #1 receiving threat in Seattle to the #4 or #5 receiving threat in Green Bay and then you are going to say "see, I told you Graham would be better" I don't think there is a person alive who thinks RR is going to put up better numbers than JG this year. That does not mean JG would put up the same stats in GB as he will in Seattle.

Do you honestly think Graham would have the stats in Green Bay, with Nelson, Cobb and Lacy getting their targets, as he will in Seattle? I'll go one step further and say if RR was in Seattle he would probably have better numbers than he will in Green Bay (not Graham type numbers for sure so don't go saying I am comparing RR to JG) but better just because of the lack of targets the #4/#5 pass catcher get in Green Bay.

What I will give you is that if we had Graham instead of Rodgers he wouldn't be the #4/#5 option he would probably be the #3 or maybe even the #2 since it may have meant losing Cobb. It would depend upon how much Mike McCarthy would be willing to change the offensive scheme to include the TE in the pass catching role.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I think the Packers could turn RR or Q into a top 5 TE statistically if that is what they set out to do. It would be at a huge cost to the rest of the offense though and it would be the same with Graham. For any Packer TE to be top 5 in the league it would mean significantly less opportunities for Nelson, Cobb, Adams, and Lacy as a whole. My question then would be what did you really gain?

Originally Posted by: sschind 

Yes, I believe Jimmy would have as good or better numbers in Green Bay. Do you think he's going to have better numbers in Seattle than he had in New Orleans?

Jimmy Graham is a star. There is little doubt Aaron makes his WR's look better than they are and I like both Jordy and Randall. Separation has never been our WR's long suit. Graham has size and leaping ability that makes him Gronk like. A guy like Graham would've dominated BECAUSE of Nelson, Cobb, and Lacy...you think he would've been buried on the target totem...I don't. I think Graham would've been absolute lightning for us. I honestly do.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

I think Richard Rodgers is pretty similar to a guy like Gronk, no?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

I think Richard Rodgers is pretty similar to a guy like Gronk, no?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann