uffda udfa
10 years ago

Vince Lombardi and the Green Bay Packers are synonymous with winning. Green Bay is called Titletown for a reason. All of that came to mind this past week when the Indianapolis Colts raised their "finalist' banner at Lucas Oil Stadium. Raising a banner is not an every year thing for teams in the NFL, unless

LombardiAve  wrote:



This is a piece from one those types of websites I generally don't respect but I found one little bit of it very interesting.

One of the things I've harped on here with our GM is not going for it...not wanting to win SB's, but rather win the division to pacify the fan base who seems generally happy, especially here.

I found this portion of the article flies in the face of the mentality of most of the posters who frequent here:

You won’t see the Green Bay Packers hoisting any kind of “finalist” banner any time soon. In fact, anyone and everyone associated with that organization or any of the millions of fans who follow the team would want that.

Our org is known for Vince Lombardi and his passion for being the BEST...not division champs and a fart in the wind in the playoffs. He stood for WINNING IT ALL or NOTHING AT ALL. How have the fans here become so satisfied with less than the best? How?

That article states what I believe... it's a JOKE to hoist some kind of finalist banner for anything even the SB. There is no lost to Denver banner hanging at Lambeau.

So, why do so many seem to betray the underpinnings of the very essence of being a Packers fan? Winning isn't everything...it's the only thing? I know someone here recently said something to the effect of Lombardi would regret that statement? Huh?

As you know, I will continue lambasting our GM for not being sold out to win it all. Nothing else matters except to many of the people here and I would really like to hear why?
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nerdmann
10 years ago

This is a piece from one those types of websites I generally don't respect but I found one little bit of it very interesting.

One of the things I've harped on here with our GM is not going for it...not wanting to win SB's, but rather win the division to pacify the fan base who seems generally happy, especially here.

I found this portion of the article flies in the face of the mentality of most of the posters who frequent here:

You won’t see the Green Bay Packers hoisting any kind of “finalist” banner any time soon. In fact, anyone and everyone associated with that organization or any of the millions of fans who follow the team would want that.

Our org is known for Vince Lombardi and his passion for being the BEST...not division champs and a fart in the wind in the playoffs. He stood for WINNING IT ALL or NOTHING AT ALL. How have the fans here become so satisfied with less than the best? How?

That article states what I believe... it's a JOKE to hoist some kind of finalist banner for anything even the SB. There is no lost to Denver banner hanging at Lambeau.

So, why do so many seem to betray the underpinnings of the very essence of being a Packers fan? Winning isn't everything...it's the only thing? I know someone here recently said something to the effect of Lombardi would regret that statement? Huh?

As you know, I will continue lambasting our GM for not being sold out to win it all. Nothing else matters except to many of the people here and I would really like to hear why?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I guess none of us have as high standards as you do.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
uffda udfa
10 years ago

I guess none of us have as high standards as you do.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Is that facetious or factual? I really want to know why we're so different. Wade and Dakota are two guys who seem to think like I do.

Perhaps, our age has something to do with this?

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68md
10 years ago

Is that facetious or factual? I really want to know why we're so different. Wade and Dakota are two guys who seem to think like I do.

Perhaps, our age has something to do with this?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 




Big difference between having high expectations and unrealistic expectations. To believe a team should achieving things in 2015 what they did in 1968 is unrealistic.

NFL is a very different animal now with this CBA and each year is a crap shoot. Uffda a lot of what ya'll say has validity but you don't have to say it 14 times and refuse to let it die. Oh and I know several fans older and younger that have similar views as yours so it's not age.
DakotaT
10 years ago
The problem I see is that the Packers under Ted Thompson don't "go for it" like they did in under Wolf. And that is because of TT's fiscal responsibility to keep a contending team in Green Bay. Now is the time to load up our defense. We have all the pieces in place to run off a few titles, but again we go into the season with holes in secondary and at inside linebacker.

Would it make sense to shore all this up before the season, spend a little money, or trade away some future draft picks? This is what drives some Packers' fans crazy.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

Big difference between having high expectations and unrealistic expectations. To believe a team should achieving things in 2015 what they did in 1968 is unrealistic.

NFL is a very different animal now with this CBA and each year is a crap shoot. Uffda a lot of what ya'll say has validity but you don't have to say it 14 times and refuse to let it die. Oh and I know several fans older and younger that have similar views as yours so it's not age.

Originally Posted by: wideside 



Lombardi's team had to play what, 12-14 games in the regular season, then win TWO playoff games?

A little easier to threepeat in that scenario. Not saying it was easy, but 5 championships in 6 years? That's a bit much to "expect" in today's NFL.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

The problem I see is that the Packers under Ted Thompson don't "go for it" like they did in under Wolf. And that is because of TT's fiscal responsibility to keep a contending team in Green Bay. Now is the time to load up our defense. We have all the pieces in place to run off a few titles, but again we go into the season with holes in secondary and at inside linebacker.

Would it make sense to shore all this up before the season, spend a little money, or trade away some future draft picks? This is what drives some Packers' fans crazy.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



True about Thompson, except Wolfe was that way too - with the one notable exception: Reggie White.

The thing is, though, I - and I think the great majority of fans - would not want what you are suggesting - basically take more risks, presumably veteran free agent signings now, and give up those draft picks down the road through trades.

I'm certainly not the Ted Thompson fan that most fans are. I'm also not against him like a few are. We are where we are because of Aaron Rodgers more than anything else - and of course Thompson gets credit for that. We also have way more than our share of low round and UDFA successes - which Thompson gets even more credit for. My only gripe has been that Thompson didn't maximize things - doing better with high round picks, etc. Well, I said "has been". The roster he has built now is pretty damn near maximized in talent, and that includes defense. I think you just let it ride and see what happens - rather than sacrifice down the road. We have so much young talent that I would hate to see a veteran free agent or two take away their roster or lineup spots.

This thread is about a Vince Lombardi quote ....... well, as great a coach as Vince was, he wasn't much of a GM. His "no room for second place" thing was more about getting the most out of what we have. That's on McCarthy if we don't. Don't get me wrong, I like McCarthy more than I like Thompson, but Thompson has put the great roster together; Now it's up to McCarthy to win with it.

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nerdmann
10 years ago

The problem I see is that the Packers under Ted Thompson don't "go for it" like they did in under Wolf. And that is because of TT's fiscal responsibility to keep a contending team in Green Bay. Now is the time to load up our defense. We have all the pieces in place to run off a few titles, but again we go into the season with holes in secondary and at inside linebacker.

Would it make sense to shore all this up before the season, spend a little money, or trade away some future draft picks? This is what drives some Packers' fans crazy.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



The way I look at it, the problem has been this team's propensity to shit themselves in crucial situations and thus piss away grave opportunities. For example, what transpired this past January.

Hopefull we've made adjustments for that.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

The way I look at it, the problem has been this team's propensity to shit themselves in crucial situations and thus piss away grave opportunities. For example, what transpired this past January.

Hopefull we've made adjustments for that.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I don't often agree with you, but when you're right, you're right.


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uffda udfa
10 years ago

Big difference between having high expectations and unrealistic expectations. To believe a team should achieving things in 2015 what they did in 1968 is unrealistic.

NFL is a very different animal now with this CBA and each year is a crap shoot. Uffda a lot of what ya'll say has validity but you don't have to say it 14 times and refuse to let it die. Oh and I know several fans older and younger that have similar views as yours so it's not age.

Originally Posted by: wideside 



I know...but I usually have 14 people disagreeing with me that I respond to trying to show them why I'm not as crazy as they label me. This is a quid pro quo deal. Let me say what I say without saying or posting right after it how wrong I am. That kills forums...you gotta flesh it out.



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