nerdmann
10 years ago

The Green Bay Packers are known as a Draft and Develop team, but that doesn’t mean that they always get it right. In fact, they tend to get it wrong a fair amount. Not as bad as some other teams, mind you, but they are not hitting 1.000. I have only been around since 1991,

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Probably half of these are due to injury.
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steveishere
10 years ago
Bj Sander rofl. Not only do you draft a punter in the 3rd round but you traded up to do it. To top it all off he couldn't even kick very well. That's just mind blowing.
nerdmann
10 years ago

Bj Sander rofl. Not only do you draft a punter in the 3rd round but you traded up to do it. To top it all off he couldn't even kick very well. That's just mind blowing.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



My favorite quote ever was when they kept him on the roster, but not active, with another punter "starting." He was like, "I'm looking forward someday to being the starting punter on the Green Bay Packers." lol Always got a kick out of that. Back up punter!?
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musccy
10 years ago

Probably half of these are due to injury.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Agreed, I struggle labeling someone who was injured as a bust. Harrell I get, there were concerns while at TN, Sherrod was just a horrible luck.
Laser Gunns
10 years ago

Agreed, I struggle labeling someone who was injured as a bust. Harrell I get, there were concerns while at TN, Sherrod was just a horrible luck.

Originally Posted by: musccy 




Well, in my mind there is a difference between a bust, and a bad pick.

If for whatever reason a pick flops, could be struck by a meteor, he's a bust. He was picked high and did not produce.

A good example is Sherrod, he was a good pick, filled a need, but never got more than a handful of snaps. Bust. I don't think anyone should fault Ted for how it turned out, the pick at the time was a good one.

Alex Green: bad pick AND bust, came from a terrible offense(schematically), had no idea how to navigate an O-line, and we took him in the 3rd. He then proceeded to make Ryan Grant look like AP.

Justin Harrell kinda falls between these two, when healthy, he was a awesome in college, might have been a reach, I don't remember, but the guy just had the worst luck I've ever seen. So that's kinda on Ted, but not entirely. Shit happens (1st snap f the season for Harrel vs PHI and he tears his ACL)

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musccy
10 years ago
As long as you have an asterisk category for the "shit happens" crowd like Sherrod I then don't care if they're titled busts, flops, bad pick or whatever. Not much you can do about Sherrod, as you alluded to, only with hindsight could we know he was a bad pick.

Harrell was regarded as a reach due in part to his health...a boom or bust pick at the time so I put him more in the "non asterisk" category.
nerdmann
10 years ago

Well, in my mind there is a difference between a bust, and a bad pick.

If for whatever reason a pick flops, could be struck by a meteor, he's a bust. He was picked high and did not produce.

A good example is Sherrod, he was a good pick, filled a need, but never got more than a handful of snaps. Bust. I don't think anyone should fault Ted for how it turned out, the pick at the time was a good one.

Alex Green: bad pick AND bust, came from a terrible offense(schematically), had no idea how to navigate an O-line, and we took him in the 3rd. He then proceeded to make Ryan Grant look like AP.

Justin Harrell kinda falls between these two, when healthy, he was a awesome in college, might have been a reach, I don't remember, but the guy just had the worst luck I've ever seen. So that's kinda on Ted, but not entirely. Shit happens (1st snap f the season for Harrel vs PHI and he tears his ACL)

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns 



Alex Green was a screen specialist. Swing him out in the flat with open field in front of him and let him do his thing. Led the nation in per carry his senior year. Hurt his knee and also was never used properly. He had a decent per carry with us when he knee was together. Still in the league iirc.
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Rockmolder
10 years ago

Alex Green was a screen specialist. Swing him out in the flat with open field in front of him and let him do his thing. Led the nation in per carry his senior year. Hurt his knee and also was never used properly. He had a decent per carry with us when he knee was together. Still in the league iirc.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Didn't even get close to 4 ypc, so I don't agree with you on that one.

I think they hoped he'd be more than just a screen specialist, but it's a bit of a gamble when you take a player who played against some bad WAC defenses and didn't carry a big workload.

In hindsight, blown knee or not, I don't think he would've succeeded. Don't think he had any skills but catch a screen pass...

The pick itsself wasn't even that good a pick. There just weren't many good receiving backs in that draft and I think that caused us to reach. Looking back, I wish we would've reached for Helu, rather than Green.
Rockmolder
10 years ago
I feel like a lot of the guys on this list just didn't pan out. Can you really call a 6th round pick like Ricky Elmore a bust?

The one recent pick I miss on this list is Worthy. He checks all the boxes for a bust. Was projected as a last 1st rounder, dropped down into halfway the second. We traded up for him and gave up our 4th rounder. The media was raving about how this would strengthen our defensive line and fix a big hole immediately...

He then got nothing going, showing just few glimpses of that project 1st rounder and got traded to the Pats for a conditional 2015 pick... Which we didn't get, because he got waived in New England just three weeks later.

Now that's a real bust.
QCHuskerFan
10 years ago

I feel like a lot of the guys on this list just didn't pan out. Can you really call a 6th round pick like Ricky Elmore a bust?

The one recent pick I miss on this list is Worthy. He checks all the boxes for a bust. Was projected as a last 1st rounder, dropped down into halfway the second. We traded up for him and gave up our 4th rounder. The media was raving about how this would strengthen our defensive line and fix a big hole immediately...

He then got nothing going, showing just few glimpses of that project 1st rounder and got traded to the Pats for a conditional 2015 pick... Which we didn't get, because he got waived in New England just three weeks later.

Now that's a real bust.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



I disagree. Worthy had a good rookie year. Steadily improved and his playing time increased through the year. Then he blew out his knee in December. Has never recovered. Not everyone recovers like AP. Worthy was the same as Sherrod to me. Not a bad pick. Just a bad result.

Now Elmore, that I agree with.
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