Cornerback is most important position· Page 3

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

The CB position's for the Packers NEEDSgood players. I believe that Ted Thompson will draft a CB first and call it the Best Player available.

Originally Posted by: Smokey

Ted Thompson has an easy transparent record of drafting the best player available more than drafting for need.

Check out Packers > Draft History to check it out yourself.

Smokey
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#22

Ted Thompson has an easy transparent record of drafting the best player available more than drafting for need.

Check out Packers > Draft History to check it out yourself.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

When Ted Thompson picks a CB or LB 1st in the draft, how will you want your CROW cooked ? Roasted sounds about right !

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#23

When Ted Thompson picks a CB or LB 1st in the draft, how will you want your CROW cooked ? Roasted sounds about right !

Originally Posted by: Smokey

Are you saying the best player available cannot be CB or LB at #30?

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#24

Ted Thompson has an easy transparent record of drafting the best player available more than drafting for need.

Check out Packers > Draft History to check it out yourself.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

greengold
Member

9 years ago

#25

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Sometimes the need isn't as obvious, but it is always there.

CB, LB are obvious. But DT and RB aren't out of the question either. Although I'm not a fan of spending first round picks on RB anymore, one of those guys (Gurley, Gordon) could be at the top of Ted's board edit when the time comes to pick.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#26

Originally Posted by: greengold

I hope they don't take RB in Round 1. I do hope they consider Tevin Coleman in R2, if he's still there. He's the guy I want most at RB.

If Gordon is there and is rated higher than say Kendricks, I would bet anything Ted Thompson goes Kendricks due to need and I don's really disagree as long as it's close. If Gordon is way above anyone on the board, I would hope he doesn't reach for need...that is killer. Datone Jones comes to mind.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#27

I believe that it was Steve that posted the comment about a week ago about how we never know what will happen and key injuries can make need a very different thing once the season gets rolling. I am hopeful for a CB with the first pick, but if somebody talented falls (Gregory) that is too good to pass up on, we have to select them.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#28

If Gordon is there and is rated higher than say Kendricks, I would bet anything Ted Thompson goes Kendricks due to need and I don's really disagree as long as it's close. If Gordon is way above anyone on the board, I would hope he doesn't reach for need...that is killer. Datone Jones comes to mind.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I agree that need factors into the equation. But don't pass up a player that is CLEARLY better just because of current needs. If the line is so close or very close then I can see leaning towards need. But if a general manager believes that a player is truly better than another, I think it's a huge mistake to pass on them for need. That's often the difference between a player that plays in the league for 10 years and one that barely has any success and never gets a second contract with the team that drafted him, at best.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#29

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

Not to derail this thread, but that's what happened in 2009. Packers board had Michael Crabtree and B.J. Raji rated equally with I believe Crabtree having a slight edge. With the ratings so close, they went with need.

nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

#30

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Ted does that. The players are rated, and then equally valuable players are also sub-rated by need.

It's easier to do that now that our roster is stocked.

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