Mucky Tundra
9 years ago
For the sake of being different, I'll say we either pick a OLB #30 or trade back a few spots and pick one. A OLB pick would allow Clay to play at ILB full time, give us depth at OLB and help out next year when we could possibly lose Peppers, Neal and Perry.
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Smokey
9 years ago

Between ILB, CB and DL, it has to be DL. It's just that obvious. Do you start to build a tower with the top floor? No, you start at the foundation and that is precisely what the DL is for a defense. You have a menacing DL, suddenly your linebackers are more productive as is your secondary.

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What suddenly just went wrong with the DL ? Did everyone but you miss something ?
It was my understanding that signing Raji and Guion stabilized the DL. If you see a problem with the DL, perhaps you could enlighten the rest of the world !

As for grabbing a future HOF player in the 2015 Draft, 😂
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TheKanataThrilla
9 years ago

Was Aaron Rodgers an immediate need? How about Cobb? One is going down the path to Canton and the other needs more time to shine. How about Perry and Datone Jones? Both were need picks yet the only way they get into Canton is with a ticket. Reaching for need is not the way.
Last year safety was a need. Good thing Ted Thompson looked ahead and picked Linsley and Adams.

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Safety was a need the year Perry was picked. It had been a need since Collins went down. We were just very fortunate that HHCD fell to us as he was projected to go much higher in almost every Mock I saw.

I believe Ted picks the BPA and sometimes they fill an immediate need as with HHCD, Bulaga, and Sherrod.

I do agree I thought Perry and Datone were reaches, but I am wondering if Ted was trying to move back but couldn't. Actually I was hoping for Harrison Smith when Perry was drafted.
Smokey
9 years ago
Ouji Boards, Physic Mediums, Tarot Cards , none can foresee weather any player will live up to expectation. Remember Tony Mandrich (sp), he was supposed to be the next League Superstar. The list continues and not just for the Packers. That is why some teams don't place all their hopes on unproven rookies. Building with the Draft is fine to a point, but no team should have tunnel vision. Yes, players were resigned, and that is a good thing.

IMO, trading up in the Draft to get better quality at a needed position is better than drafting 2 or 3 players that never start a game. With 9 draft picks, Ted Thompson can afford to trade a few to get better quality. That would raise the odds of players being able to contribute to the Teams success. Trading down just adds to a collection of more less quality players.

My opinion has not/and will not change, The Packers need ILB's and CB's (plural) before anything elese in the 2015 NFL Draft.




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steveishere
9 years ago
The flip side is passing on (for example) Randy Moss 2.0 to draft Aaron Curry 2.0 because you need an ILB would be extremely disappointing.
TheKanataThrilla
9 years ago

The flip side is passing on (for example) Randy Moss 2.0 to draft Aaron Curry 2.0 because you need an ILB would be extremely disappointing.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



That is exactly it. It is always a crapshoot so you take the guy that is going to be the best player.

Zero2Cool
9 years ago
If you draft for needs in April/May you're drafting for stale needs, meaning, you're drafting needs for the prior season and not the upcoming season. Unless you have a DeLorean, this method is fruitless. We still have OTA's, Training Camp, Pre-Season and there could be all sorts of injuries that could dramatically change what is needed. This is why you always draft the best football players that you can.

As Ted Thompson says, you can never have too many good football players.








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Poppa San
9 years ago

..... This is why you always draft the best football players that you can.

As Ted Thompson says, you can never have too many good football players.

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And to read most forums and comments and blogs, for the Packers this year that can only be accomplished if Ted Thompson drafts a CB or ILB. Maybe DL. No other positions need be considered. Except for QB and WR, a first round pick of most any other non-ST position could be considered a need. Could possibly add safety to that list. I'd be disappointed in a RB or OL also.
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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

If you draft for needs in April/May you're drafting for stale needs, meaning, you're drafting needs for the prior season and not the upcoming season. Unless you have a DeLorean, this method is fruitless. We still have OTA's, Training Camp, Pre-Season and there could be all sorts of injuries that could dramatically change what is needed. This is why you always draft the best football players that you can.

As Ted Thompson says, you can never have too many good football players.

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Funny, I thought Ted said you can never have too much leftover cap room.

In point of fact, you CAN have too many good football players. 54 or 55 would be 1 or 2 too many.

It's often said in the Backup QB thread and elsewhere, we could have any backup QB in the league, and just about any other team's starter QB, and we'd still be absolutely screwed if Aaron Rodgers went down. Well, that's just a round about way of saying Ted has made is reputation as a good GM off the supreme quality of Aaron Rodgers, and he has done a pretty mediocre job of building a team around Rodgers.


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TheKanataThrilla
9 years ago

And to read most forums and comments and blogs, for the Packers this year that can only be accomplished if Ted Thompson drafts a CB or ILB. Maybe DL. No other positions need be considered. Except for QB and WR, a first round pick of most any other non-ST position could be considered a need. Could possibly add safety to that list. I'd be disappointed in a RB or OL also.

Originally Posted by: Poppa San 



Given issues with Lacy's health if Gordon is there you take him. I would take Maxx Williams as well because I think he will be a special player. He may not be Gronk, but I think with Rodgers he could be close.
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