Zero2Cool
10 years ago

Are you related to the OZ Scarecrow, he had no brain either .

The Packers keep loosing defensive personal. College CB's often move on to play Safety at the NFL Level.
ILB's that can tackle and drop into pass coverage and blitz are the center of the 3-4 .

Now go back to the Kiddie Table ! :cussing:

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Do you really feel this kind of response is conducive to furthering a discussion? Express your disagreement in a less insulting manner please. Thank you.


The Raiders signed Sean Richardson to an offer sheet, that means the Packers the option to match the offer or exceed the offer. If they do so, they retain Richardson. I for one hope they do because I like the kid.
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Rockmolder
10 years ago

It's an offer sheet.

Ted now has the chance to match it.
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This is the way the system works.

The Raiders have set the price for Richardson, now it's up to Ted to decide whether he is worth the price.

Not a bad price, I would match it.

Let's see what Ted thinks.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



$2.55 million for a dime a dozen safety does seem a bit rich to me. I think you could go out and get a guy like Jaiquawn Jarrett for that money... A player who brings more than being just a STs body you hope you never have to rely on on defense.

With Banjo on the roster, Fanor who we signed in december, Hyde who can step in at safety and the draft coming up, I'd rather not spend my money overpaying mediocre safeties. That's more of a Raiders thing.
Smokey
10 years ago


The Raiders signed Sean Richardson to an offer sheet, that means the Packers the option to match the offer or exceed the offer. If they do so, they retain Richardson. I for one hope they do because I like the kid.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



With Shields and Hayward, why would Ted Thompson want to spend money retaining a player with experience at the position ?

Ok, be upset with me, but I read the off the wall post and just can't help myself sometimes. Do some of you actually read and believe what your post ?

On the other hand, some post are quite intelligent and show focused thought .

Every off-season that I've been in online forums (4 years) , I've been precisely correct about The Packers needs. Also the "experts" back me up in their articles.

As a result it is not easy to read post that sound as if they were written by High School Dropouts on Drugs . I don't expect people to always agree with me, but at least explain the logic behind some of the completely wrong ideas that get posted .
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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
I know a lot of people in here like (or used to like) Richardson. I was not among them. He always seemed to me to be that kind of big hitter/poor coverage kind of Safety I never cared for.

As was said, since we have Burnett, HHCD, Hyde, and Banjo, we don't need to match that offer for a mediocre ST player who hardly sees the field as a Safety.
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago

With Shields and Hayward, why would Ted Thompson want to spend money retaining a player with experience at the position ?

Ok, be upset with me, but I read the off the wall post and just can't help myself sometimes. Do some of you actually read and believe what your post ?

On the other hand, some post are quite intelligent and show focused thought .

Every off-season that I've been in online forums (4 years) , I've been precisely correct about The Packers needs. Also the "experts" back me up in their articles.

As a result it is not easy to read post that sound as if they were written by High School Dropouts on Drugs . I don't expect people to always agree with me, but at least explain the logic behind some of the completely wrong ideas that get posted .

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



I'm pretty sure the experts are not backing you up, rather you piggy backing off what the experts say. 🙂 (that's a joke in case it wasn't obvious)



The Packers do need to add depth at several positions, as do nearly every team. I like Sean Richardson and hoping the Packers match the offer.

Each team can have up to 90 players during the off season and right now the Packers have 60.

Quick count ...
9 DB
9 DL
12 LB
12 OL
2 QB
3 RB
3 TE
4 ST



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gbguy20
10 years ago

I'm pretty sure the experts are not backing you up, rather you piggy backing off what the experts say. 🙂 (that's a joke in case it wasn't obvious)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I'll back you up on this. Minus the joking part.


anyways, what do we get in return if we don't match the offer?
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greengold
10 years ago
$2.55M is 4 to 5 times as much as a younger guy would make. Richardson is a quality backup but I think he has reached his ceiling. I don't think Thompson is getting into a bidding war over him.

greengold
10 years ago

I'll back you up on this. Minus the joking part.


anyways, what do we get in return if we don't match the offer?

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Packers had only extended the "original round tender" to Richardson. Since he was not drafted, there would be no compensation if he left.



gbguy20
10 years ago

Packers had only extended the "original round tender" to Richardson. Since he was not drafted, there would be no compensation if he left.



Originally Posted by: greengold 



thanks
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Smokey
10 years ago


Each team can have up to 90 players during the off season and right now the Packers have 60.

Quick count ...
9 DB
9 DL
12 LB
12 OL
2 QB
3 RB
3 TE
4 ST

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I'll assume that your information is correct, even though you've not stated from where you got it. How many were with the practice squad ? How many will never make it to be a starter ?

Now I see the Packers loosing ILB's and CB's , and magically determine that those positions will need to be filled. :signduh:

Before Lacey, I saw that The Packers needed a Running Back, when ALL cried that the passing attack was all that was needed .

Last off-season , I foresaw the greatest need at the safety position. Then appears Ha Ha Clinton-Dix to the rescue. He will be more of a presence this season , following his rookie season.

I see the obvious and have the courage to speak the truth. That later I find articles penned by professionals that back up my case is just support for what I've been saying all along.

I say that the Packers Offense is in good shape for 2015, yet the Defense needs personal at the CB and ILB positions. In addition, faster/stronger Defensive non-starters will find Special Teams ready to welcome them to the squad.
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