Zero2Cool
10 years ago

Richardson is Atari Bigby 2.0.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



If it's the Bigby from the Seatle Seahawks "Snowbowl" game. I. down.
UserPostedImage
DoddPower
10 years ago

No one wants the backups to have to start and play the whole game but that's what they may be called on to do. If he is and you wouldn't want him to be I wouldn't call him decent.

Sounds like see ya later to me.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Well, I was trying to be nice. Plus, some backups are better than others. I feel like Richardson will be a huge liability anytime he is on the field and the opponent is throwing the ball. But he is a hitter and can play the run pretty well, so I'd still have to call him a decent backup. But probably not a good backup. There's no reason to believe he can't or won't improve, but he just seems to stiff to me. With a great pass rush, it could work out.
steveishere
10 years ago
Richardson has been in coverage on pass plays 44 times this preseason and allowed 2 catches for 27 total yards. That added to the fact that most of the time you can't even see the safeties on the broadcast I don't really get where people are saying he has looked bad or terrible in coverage. Also during training camp he seems like the only one whose been able to get any interceptions. It seems most of the criticism is coming from preconceived notions about his ability and not any actual evidence.
DarkaneRules
10 years ago
Sometimes not calling a safeties name is a good thing. I think there is a culture expecting the defense to get an intercept almost every play or something.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
DoddPower
10 years ago

Richardson has been in coverage on pass plays 44 times this preseason and allowed 2 catches for 27 total yards. That added to the fact that most of the time you can't even see the safeties on the broadcast I don't really get where people are saying he has looked bad or terrible in coverage. Also during training camp he seems like the only one whose been able to get any interceptions. It seems most of the criticism is coming from preconceived notions about his ability and not any actual evidence.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Most of my perceptions are from his time at Vandy. I think he got an interception there once.
beast
10 years ago
To me Richardson and Hyde are sort of opposite in their coverage skills...

Hyde can twist and turn with great stop and start skills and quickness to boot but struggles with pure straight line speed. Like a little supped up car that can handle with the best of them and turn on a dime but doesn't have the huge speed engine.

Richardson on the other hand has the pure straight line speed but he struggles to keep the speed up on turns and start and stopping. Like a drag racer car that's only set up going to go straight and struggles with the curve roads.



Richardson not being able to handle curves nearly as well and his tight hips are always going to hurt him in coverage. But I think he might have more potential as well in different type roles. Such as maybe as a coverage ILB... or maybe a single deep zone FS role... yes I said FS and I know some might think I'm crazy but let me explain.

I think Richardson would struggled with a man to man FS role as I'm sure most of you would as well... but as a single deep Safety in a deep zone roll (which GB hasn't used a lot recently), the FS mainly hang back and wait for the QB to throw it and use their pure speed to get over to the ball or WR and take it out like a missile.... Richardson has the speed and the missile part down already and basically the deep zone FS is like a speed demon LB, which Richardson is.

Of course like I said I haven't seen Capers use much of it lately... as they prefer two Safeties normal depth Safeties... but the Packers have done the single deep Safety role in the past with the Packers.


It was a 2-4 nickel defense... where both OLBers moved up to the DL and Nick Collins moved up to the ILBers making it look like a 4-3 looking set up with 3 CBs and one deep Safety. I think Richardson might be able to play the deep Safety or the Safety that lined up with the LB there.

But again Capers doesn't use the single deep zone FS role a lot... so that's probably off the table from simple not using it enough.



UserPostedImage
DarkaneRules
10 years ago
You're the best beast!
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
sschind
10 years ago

To me Richardson and Hyde are sort of opposite in their coverage skills...

Hyde can twist and turn with great stop and start skills and quickness to boot but struggles with pure straight line speed. Like a little supped up car that can handle with the best of them and turn on a dime but doesn't have the huge speed engine.

Richardson on the other hand has the pure straight line speed but he struggles to keep the speed up on turns and start and stopping. Like a drag racer car that's only set up going to go straight and struggles with the curve roads.



Richardson not being able to handle curves nearly as well and his tight hips are always going to hurt him in coverage. But I think he might have more potential as well in different type roles. Such as maybe as a coverage ILB... or maybe a single deep zone FS role... yes I said FS and I know some might think I'm crazy but let me explain.

I think Richardson would struggled with a man to man FS role as I'm sure most of you would as well... but as a single deep Safety in a deep zone roll (which GB hasn't used a lot recently), the FS mainly hang back and wait for the QB to throw it and use their pure speed to get over to the ball or WR and take it out like a missile.... Richardson has the speed and the missile part down already and basically the deep zone FS is like a speed demon LB, which Richardson is.

Of course like I said I haven't seen Capers use much of it lately... as they prefer two Safeties normal depth Safeties... but the Packers have done the single deep Safety role in the past with the Packers.


It was a 2-4 nickel defense... where both OLBers moved up to the DL and Nick Collins moved up to the ILBers making it look like a 4-3 looking set up with 3 CBs and one deep Safety. I think Richardson might be able to play the deep Safety or the Safety that lined up with the LB there.

But again Capers doesn't use the single deep zone FS role a lot... so that's probably off the table from simple not using it enough.


Originally Posted by: beast 



You mean Richardsons and Hydes right.[grin1]

Zero2Cool
10 years ago
Seems like the Safeties coach is on board, are you?

Sean's been consistent and has probably had the most splash plays of anyone in the group. He's playing with a lot more confidence than I've ever seen him have, and he's playing with lower pad level. When you're a big safety like that and you stand tall you look a little slow.

Darren Perry wrote:


UserPostedImage
DoddPower
10 years ago

Seems like the Safeties coach is on board, are you?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I'll be "on board" when I see him consistently making plays in the regular season. Until then, a quote from any coach, player, or general manager means very little to me. Hopefully at minimum they utilize him effectively in certain packages designed to best-utilize his skill-set.
Fan Shout
packerfanoutwest (10m) : Doubs is out due to concussion
beast (2h) : What does the weather look like?
Martha Careful (6h) : You can wear long-johns mittens and a hat. We want Hill and their other skill guys FROZEN
Zero2Cool (10h) : I'm not sure I hope for that. I'll be at the game.
Martha Careful (25-Nov) : I hope it is colder than a well-diggers ass on Thanksgiving night.
Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : doubt he wants to face the speedsters
beast (25-Nov) : Dolphins offense can be explosive... I wonder if we'll have Alexander back
Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : No Doubs could be issue Thursday
Mucky Tundra (25-Nov) : Bears. Santos. Blocked FG
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Bears. Vikings. OT
Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Thems the breaks I guess
Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Two players out and Williams had an injury designation this week but Oladapo is a healthy scratch
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Packers inactives vs 49ers: • CB Jaire Alexander • S Kitan Oladapo • LB Edgerrin Cooper • OL Jacob Monk
TheKanataThrilla (24-Nov) : Aaron Jones with a costly red zone fumble
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : When we trade Malik for a 1st rounder, we'll need a new QB2.
packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : Report: Aaron Rodgers wants to play in 2025, but not for the Jets
beast (23-Nov) : That's what I told the Police officer about my speed when he pulled me over
packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : NFL told Bears that Packers’ blocked field goal was legal
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : 49ers are underdogs at Packers, ending streak of 36 straight games as favorites
Zero2Cool (22-Nov) : 49ers might be down their QB, DL, TE and LT?
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : Jaire Alexander says he has a torn PCL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Even with the context it's ... what?
Mucky Tundra (20-Nov) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”
beast (20-Nov) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout
beast (20-Nov) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.
beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?
beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : The Jets fired Joe Douglas, per sources
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Jets are a mess......
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Pretty sure Jets fired their scouting staff and just pluck former Packers.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Jets sign Anders Carlson to their 53.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : When you cycle the weeks, the total over remains for season. But you get your W/L for that selected week. Confusing.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the totals are accurate..nrvrtmind
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : I don't follow what you are saying. The totals are not the same as last week.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : ok so then wht are the totals the same as last week?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : NFL Pick'em is auto updated when NFL Scores tab is clicked
Martha Careful (19-Nov) : The offense was OK. Let's not forget the Bear defense is very very good.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Who updates the leaderboard on NFLPickem?
beast (19-Nov) : Has the Packers offense been worse since the former Jets coach joined the Packers?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Offense gets his ass in gear, this could be good.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Backup QB helped with three wins. Special Teams contributed to three wins.
bboystyle (18-Nov) : Lions played outside thats why. They scored 16 and 17 in the only 2 outside games this year
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : The rest of the NFL is catching up to Packers ... kicking is an issue throughout league
packerfanoutwest (18-Nov) : Packers DL Kenny Clark: We knew 'we were going to block' Bears' game-winning field goal attempt
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Lions seem to be throttling everyone, but only (only) got 24 lol maybe the rain is why
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

2h / Featured Content / wpr

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

25-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

25-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

24-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

24-Nov / GameDay Threads / Zero2Cool

23-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

23-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.