Mike McCarthy should get plenty of blame for Packers loss· Page 3

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

Sure execution matters, so does realizing what the team does good and what they don't. The team has not been good at power running. We went 4 plays against Det at the one and couldn't ram it in. So after trying once to ram it down their throats fine, after the players failed to execute enough to score, lining up in the same formation and only change the ball carrier isn't good coaching. Do something different, motion somebody to try and move the defense into a different alignment. Spread the defense out more.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

I hear what you're saying, but early on in the game, I don't necessarily disagree with what they did. Presumably headed into the game they had the confidence that they could cram it down their throats. Otherwise they wouldn't have tried it. You game plan based on what you believe from tape or that week of prep. It was a trial and error, and it didn't work.

Again, I get what you're getting at, I just feel despite whatever issues in play calling and formations you want to fault McCarthy for, the team still had ample opportunities to distance themselves in the first half, or win it in the 4th which the players squandered.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#22

I can't get enough of the praising of Mike McCarthy as a "great coach".

If this was auto racing and you had a car that was 50 more horsepower than every other car and all you did is get somewhat close to winning racing championships it would be a complete and utter embarrassment.
Mike McCarthy has Aaron Rodgers and consistently loses with him to the praise of some fans who frankly do not get it.

This team should be able to match what New England has done over the years. Is Tom Brady, right now, better than Aaron Rodgers? No freaking way. However, the Pats have been in NFC Championships and SB's on a regular basis over the years. The Packers? LOL.

It is shameful to lose as we do year after year. When will you ever wake up to the fact Mike McCarthy is NOT a good coach? When? After a loss like that and you still can't see it. Still? Hope is fading that you will ever see it.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#23

I can't get enough of the praising of Mike McCarthy as a "great coach".
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Mike McCarthy has Aaron Rodgers and consistently loses with him to the praise of some fans who frankly do not get it.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I'm guessing this comment was directed at me. I never declared Mike was a "great coach" in fact I didn't say anything about it. I just questioned where the brunt of the blame was directed.

Aaron Rodger's passer rating Sunday was a 55.8. 2 ints in field goal range. Missed Jordy in the endzone. You're looking at 10 points right there lost on account of his arm.

I'm not pinning the blame on him by any means. Just pointing out that this tunnel vision witch hunt directed towards Mike McCarthy is a gross oversimplification of what transpired. There was a roster full of contributors to both the success and collapse that the Packers saw on Sunday, not just one guy wearing a headset.

DakotaT
Select Member

9 years ago

#24

A special teams coach gets a fake field goal for a touchdown, and an onside kick in the NFC championship game, and doesn't get fired? Something stinks at 1265 Lombardi Avenue.

nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

#25

I don't know if I buy into conspiracy theories. Maybe with Mike because at the time I think he was weighing a job opening in Seattle and may have been distracted? Regardless, I find it pretty unlikely.

My bigger point is that we've seen 3 different coaches with underwhelming performances, not just MM. Holmgren couldn't win in Dallas. Didn't they lose to a terrible Colts team one of those 13-3 seasons? Even belicheck had a 16-0 team lose in the SB to a 9-7 team. It happens. Do the Packers have flaws, shortcomings, maybe even trends? Sure, but it's not just them.

Originally Posted by: musccy

It is alleged that Holmgren's ego got the better of him in that game. Yes, we got blown out one week by the Colts that year. But on that team, such an event was an aberration. That's what is different with McCarthy. Players are not held accountable. So this self shitting continues.

Then when it matters most, the self shitting snowballs.

Yeah, "It happens." With McCarthy, it happens consistently.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#26

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

The Colts loss was 41-38 if memory serves...we didn't get blown out but they were 0-13 when we went to Indy and lost.

Dakota...you are right. Slocum should've been immediately canned. ST's have been so poor in Green Bay over the years. I'm not sure why that never seems to change?

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#27

The Packers team was giddy counting chickens before they hatched.

Originally Posted by: MintBaconDrivel

FINALLY!

My comedic relief has finall6 reappeared!

What are you so upset about, u said all along The Packers had no chance.

Damn after making a fool out of yourself the whole season with your "expert" opinions on The Packers, NFL free agents, and most of all College Football, u finally got one right.

You had to be sweating it out with 5 minutes to go in the game, wondering where you could go troll next.

Well congratulations The Packers lost!

You're a Frickin Football Geniusd

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#28

Dakota...you are right. Slocum should've been immediately canned. ST's have been so poor in Green Bay over the years. I'm not sure why that never seems to change?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

The biggest question with ST is what players does McCarthy and Dom make available to Slocum. We were having trouble with blocked FG, was that a schematic issue or coaching issue or was it a personnel problem. The seemed to solve that at the end, and what was the solution. Lang and Sitton were made available to Slocum so the improved the quality of player he had to work with.

Going into the playoffs, with Rodgers injury, the team started keeping Tolzien active, so that took one player away from Slocum.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

DoddPower
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#29

This team should be able to match what New England has done over the years. Is Tom Brady, right now, better than Aaron Rodgers? No freaking way. However, the Pats have been in NFC Championships and SB's on a regular basis over the years. The Packers? LOL.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Tom Brady is still an elite quarterback. One of the best in the league. Bill Belichick is generally viewed as the best coach in the league, and quite possibly ever. He's a better coach than Mike McCarthy. Plus the Patriots defense is better than the Packers this season. But just because Mike McCarthy is not Bill Belichick does not mean he's not a good coach, though. I'm sure every team would love to have a coach as good as Belichick.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#30

Even though there are some things I dislike about McCarthy, namely how bad he turned the run blocking of this team, his not putting away closer games when they have the chance, and that he doesn't seem to have the personality to energize players and team on the sidelines.

The only coaches I would consider replacing him with would be Sean Peyton, John Harbaugh, and maybe Andy Reid.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

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