Packers: Pretenders or Contenders· Page 24

yooperfan
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#231

CONTENDERS!

beast
Select Member

10 years ago

#232

In other words, if the Packers opponent has a Good to Elite quarterback, they are screwed!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

So in other words, Tony Romo is not "a Good to Elite quarterback" and should NOT of ever been considered an NFL MVP candidate over Rodgers? 👅 After all they weren't screwed 👍

Also now that the Packers are in the final 4 NFL teams, can we agree they're contenders? Or people still fighting that?

Rockmolder
Honored Member

10 years ago

#233

Originally Posted by: beast

I don't think we are.

If we win the Super Bowl, we got lucky, getting as far as we did while clearly not being the best team.

If we lose the Super Bowl, we screwed over the NFC, because the Seahawks would've had a better shot at the Pats/Colts.

If we lose against the Seahawks, we're obviously the weaker team and only got this far because of an easy schedule and luck.

It's always like that, because sticking to a point is easier than saying you're wrong.

I should know. I was banging Jerry Hughes' drum so hard in 2010 that I still can't admit that Bulaga was the better pick.

beast
Select Member

10 years ago

#234

If we lose against the Seahawks, we're obviously... only got this far because of an easy schedule and luck.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder

If we win the Super Bowl, we got lucky, getting as far as we did while clearly not being the best team.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder

Every Super Bowl winning has luck getting there (not extra luck but luck still like not having the injury bug take out important players) last year the Seahawks were lucky the 49ers didn't beat them and 49ers were lucky Packers didn't beat them both close games.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#235

Pardon my french but, that's bullshit! If the Seahawks win they might be a better team but the Packers earned their way to the conference championship game just like the rest of them and wasn't about no easy schedule nor Andrew Luck or any other kind of extra luck that all the other winning team haven't also had.

Every Super Bowl winning has luck getting there (not extra luck but luck still like not having the injury bug take out important players) last year the Seahawks were lucky the 49ers didn't beat them and 49ers were lucky Packers didn't beat them both close games.

Originally Posted by: beast

Mr. Bullwinkle is being facetious.

If by some miracle the Packers top Seahawks, those two weeks will do wonders on little calf-y and I don't think Patriots or Colts have enough to top Rodgers.

polargrizz
Member

10 years ago

#236

If by some miracle the Packers top Seahawks, those two weeks will do wonders on little calf-y and I don't think Patriots or Colts have enough to top Rodgers.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I'm new to all things Packers Angst. There will always be cliff divers within all fan bases. I have had first hand knowledge of this with my former Bears allegiance, nobody could dive off a cliff like Bears fans....(See 1986 and The NFC Championship Run)

Anyway My 2 cents says that the Packers are currently pretenders with a caveat, Rodgers left calf. All things being equal the packers would win a close battle with Seattle at home. Without 12 being able to run takes away 33% of His ability factor. Their Denense has one glaring weakness that I see, they have problems stopping a good running game, See Beastmode..first game rushing total of 207 yards

Bottom line, He's going to be a sitting duck when the Hawks bring their blitz packages. Because Seattle has strong corners they match up well on the outside giving all blitz's more success. the GB running game seems to always start out each game strong, only to slowly fade, because of play calling?

Anyway, I will be watching, and cheering that the Packers prevail. My Superbowl pick is still alive....GB V NE. Just be sure that if you dive from the cliff that you get enough clearance to avoid the rocks and hit the water..[aiee]

sorry no billboards

sschind
Senior Member

10 years ago

#237

I don't think we are.

If we win the Super Bowl, we got lucky, getting as far as we did while clearly not being the best team.

.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder

If we win the Super Bowl we are neither contenders nor pretenders we are World Champions. No other words matter, besides maybe winners.

Wade
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#238

I haven't been able to see much of the Packers this year.

Based on yesterday's game, clearly they are better than I thought. Peppers gave more than I thought he would when acquired. Same with this year's draft. The defense ended up being better than I thought it was (e.g., Guion IMO proved better than Raji would have). So did the OL.

I still am going to argue that "dominant," not "contender," should be the standard. And I still think the OL and the D aren't good enough for that.

But have they show themselves contenders this year? Absolutely. I think Seattle is the better team overall, but I think it's a FG better, not a TD better. And if a 60-yard FG is needed for the win, or any FG (which is a good bet IMO), Mason Crosby pulls it off.

And if they can manage to get past Seattle, they should IMO be the Super Bowl favorite.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

DakotaT
Select Member

10 years ago

#239

I'd feel a lot better if our heavily Rodgers dependent team had a healthy Rodgers going into the defending champion's stadium. The NFC championship game has a recipe for disaster all over it for the Packers, but wouldn't it be awesome if we pulled this one off? Nothing to do now but let this game be played.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#240

There are four teams left and the Green Bay Packers are one of the four and some still want to say they are not a contender? Are you trucking kiddin me here?

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