Zero2Cool
10 years ago

Zero, when white America is put into chains, whipped, and made to do excruciating manual labor for room and board OR rounded up and put on little sovereign nations of the worst possible fucking land this country has to offer - then we can scream reverse racism justifiably. Until then - SHUT THE FUCK UP - we are not oppressed in any way shape or form.

The people of color were the ones oppressed as this country's wealth was made off their's and the backs of the poor white trash. If you can't wrap your head around that kind of thinking and understand the dynamics of the mistreatment of those people and the lingering effects continuing today, than I feel sorry for you. You should go back to college and relearn some World History.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I re-read what I said and still not sure why you went off the deep end with such an atrocious and vicious response. It's as if you see someone respond and with no regard to the actual content you just spew out blind hatred. It is transparent with your response you didn't even attempt to comprehend the words at all. Perhaps my "too lazy" joke wasn't obvious enough of a joke and crossed a line regardless of its intended humor. I apologize.


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10 years ago
I have accused you at times, Zero, of not participating in discussions of substance, or just coming through with witty one liners, but you really outdid yourself in eloquence - and relatively fair and balanced too. I honestly don't even know who Shaun T is, but whatever.

The "white man's guilt" thing simply doesn't fly - except with the sickest of the sick, as demonstrated by his reply to your post.

As for the original "thug" thing, which I either didn't read or barely read originally, it doesn't really seem like Sherman was even trying to turn the word into a racial epithet. He was just kinda justifying his thuggish on field behavior by running his mouth. Going back a few years, my first use of "thug" in sports applied to the Detroit Pistons - in particular, Bill Laimbeer (hey, he's white! how about that?) - and later to Michigan State and Izzo. Both of them IMO expected and usually got favoritism from the officials because "that was their game" - commit 70 or 80 fouls and get called for 25 or so, while the Badgers or Bucks or whoever would commit maybe 20 and also get called for 25 or so - just to keep things even.

Now you could say (and I guess you DID say) roughly the same is sometimes applied in life in general, and it is maddening in a sort of reverse racist way, and the "white man's guilt" crowd would say it's deserved or whatever, but that really is neither here nor there.

The most PERTINENT point is WHO twisted Sherman's words to make it seem like "thug" equated to putting down black people, as opposed to putting down merely perpetrators of thuggish behavior. That "who" in here, of course, is Dakota. However, I refuse to give him "credit" for an original thought. Rather, I suspect he dug it up from some lame leftist source trying to stir up trouble and trying to piss all over America - because that's just what leftists do hahahahaha. Ironically (or maybe not so ironic), in doing so, the left in general and our boy in particular, betrayed their own sick and nasty racism by portraying black people as thugs.
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DakotaT
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10 years ago

I re-read what I said and still not sure why you went off the deep end with such an atrocious and vicious response. It's as if you see someone respond and with no regard to the actual content you just spew out blind hatred. It is transparent with your response you didn't even attempt to comprehend the words at all. Perhaps my "too lazy" joke wasn't obvious enough of a joke and crossed a line regardless of its intended humor. I apologize.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Minorities aren't being given special treatment, they are being given makeup treatment for sins of the past. I understand your point of view and excuse it do to yours and all the other fool's ignorance that I continue to argue with on this topic. Until you all quit dismissing all the sins of the past as irrelevant, than we cannot have an intelligent conversation about something as ridiculous as minority privileges.
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago

Minorities aren't being given special treatment, they are being given makeup treatment for sins of the past. I understand your point of view and excuse it do to yours and all the other fool's ignorance that I continue to argue with on this topic. Until you all quit dismissing all the sins of the past as irrelevant, than we cannot have an intelligent conversation about something as ridiculous as minority privileges.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Did you know that Africans themselves would capture members of rival clans/tribes and sell them as slaves?
Did you know that Native Americans owned Black slaves?
Did you know that Africans owned White slaves and if/when they didn't perform they were SLAUGHTERED?

Truth is you will not find any race that was not cruel to or owned slaves of another race. That is a fact and I know you're wise enough to know this so why you pretend otherwise is befuddling.

Based on my experiences and observations interacting with minorities is minorities do not want special treatment of any kind and certainly do not feel it is owed to them for cruelties enacted by ancestors from centuries ago. Everyone, regardless of race, sexuality, appearance, age and what have you simply want the same opportunities afforded to them as the next person.


Many years ago I held the door for a gentlemen in a wheel chair and very rudely he snapped at me "I don't need your help!" instantly I snapped back with "Sir, I didn't hold the door because I felt you needed help. I held the door because it's what I do regardless of who is behind me". Then he said something that really confused me, he said, with a big smile on his face "Thank you!".

Some might want to label me insensitive for snapping back, so be it, but bottom line is he, just like everyone else simply wants to be treated as an equal person and that is what he was thanking me for.

Unfortunately some will inconsiderately and disrespectfully extrapolate my words and make harsh cruel statements about me without even knowing enough about me to do so. The hypocrisy with such is disheartening.
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10 years ago
Sins of the past are not irrelevant.

They are, however, of the past.

We all have sins enough today to damn us. We don't need to add assignment of blame rightly assigned to those already dead.
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10 years ago

Sins of the past are not irrelevant.

They are, however, of the past.

We all have sins enough today to damn us. We don't need to add assignment of blame rightly assigned to those already dead.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



I couldn't disagree with you more. And then to make exponentially worse, you have morons who have the nerve to say those minorities have been treated well.
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10 years ago

Did you know that Africans themselves would capture members of rival clans/tribes and sell them as slaves?
Did you know that Native Americans owned Black slaves?
Did you know that Africans owned White slaves and if/when they didn't perform they were SLAUGHTERED?

Truth is you will not find any race that was not cruel to or owned slaves of another race. That is a fact and I know you're wise enough to know this so why you pretend otherwise is befuddling.

Based on my experiences and observations interacting with minorities is minorities do not want special treatment of any kind and certainly do not feel it is owed to them for cruelties enacted by ancestors from centuries ago. Everyone, regardless of race, sexuality, appearance, age and what have you simply want the same opportunities afforded to them as the next person.


Many years ago I held the door for a gentlemen in a wheel chair and very rudely he snapped at me "I don't need your help!" instantly I snapped back with "Sir, I didn't hold the door because I felt you needed help. I held the door because it's what I do regardless of who is behind me". Then he said something that really confused me, he said, with a big smile on his face "Thank you!".

Some might want to label me insensitive for snapping back, so be it, but bottom line is he, just like everyone else simply wants to be treated as an equal person and that is what he was thanking me for.

Unfortunately some will inconsiderately and disrespectfully extrapolate my words and make harsh cruel statements about me without even knowing enough about me to do so. The hypocrisy with such is disheartening.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



But there in lies the problem - they aren't being treated equally and never will be in this country. Look at how horribly our first black president has been treated by the so called normal Americans. What a fucking disgrace those people are. We have a long, long way to go before we have equality and a level playing field in this country. And for the right wing to make the claim there is no such thing as racism, it is not only laughable, it is down right appalling for those bigots to even utter such nonsense.
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago

But there in lies the problem - they aren't being treated equally and never will be in this country. Look at how horribly our first black president has been treated by the so called normal Americans. What a fucking disgrace those people are. We have a long, long way to go before we have equality and a level playing field in this country. And for the right wing to make the claim there is no such thing as racism, it is not only laughable, it is down right appalling for those bigots to even utter such nonsense.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



You are correct, people are certainly treated differently solely on being "different" whether it is their weight, appearance, height, skin color, voice, sexual preference and many other things that we as a human race should be evolved enough to be transparent to and view people as a person, nothing more, nothing less.

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DakotaT
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10 years ago

You are correct, people are certainly treated differently solely on being "different" whether it is their weight, appearance, height, skin color, voice, sexual preference and many other things that we as a human race should be evolved enough to be transparent to and view people as a person, nothing more, nothing less.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



But we aren't and especially in this country. The good normally Americans need to first learn some humility and then find some humanity.
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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

But we aren't and especially in this country. The good normally Americans need to first learn some humility and then find some humanity.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Fuck Humility! Who do you know that goes around thinking "oooh I hope nobody mistreats me today". I sure as hell don't. You see, Dakota? There you go again with the RACISM. You seem to that's how it is with minorities. You REALLY ought to get out more and talk to some of those minorities hahahaha. The huge huge majority of them are just like anybody else - Good and Normal, not to mention pro-American and in a lot of cases, more moral and better Christians than a lot of white people - which makes them dead set against the CRAP your side puts out to sickly CHANGE our Christian American way of life - abortion, homosexuality, the rest of the hallmarks of liberal thought. And in the realm of TREATMENT, most blacks and hispanics, just like most whites of all income levels just want the God damned government to leave them alone - stay the hell away with its stinking taxes and regulations.

THAT is why in ever increasing numbers, OUR side is gaining among minorities and in general, and why your sick hateful anti-American LEFTIST crap and the politicians advocating it are going DOWN.
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