sschind
10 years ago

no not really. I have seen dozens of fans from most other teams say the same thing. It is not whining if everyone but Lions fans (for the most part) feel the same way.

As far as if it was a Packer (say CM3 for instance) who was the one stepping back with one foot or two feet isn't the real issue. it is his long history of poor behavior. It could happen to anyone. Everyone is doubtful of it when Suh does it.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I've seen that too and how much of it comes from people who assume it was intentional just because it was Suh? A lot I can guarantee you. Put any Packers player in the exact same position and you are going to get the majority of Packer fans and a good percentage of other fans saying it was an accident.

I wonder how many people didn't even see the play before they automatically proclaimed him guilty.

Besides, its still whining. Whine about the refs, whine about the dirty play, whine about the clock whine about whatever you want its still whining. It doesn't matter if its a fact or not, incessant complaining about it is whining. It's over and done, move on.

Funny thing is fans were whining about it and then when they realized that suspension could conceivably work against us they whined about that as well. Someone (maybe not here) said Suh should not be suspended for the Dallas game but for the next Lions/Packers game. I never heard anyone suggest Raiola should have been allowed to play against the Packers and be suspended for the next Lions/Bears game. We were all happy as clams when we heard they were going to be without their starting center. That is at least until we realized their backup might actually be better.

As far as what Ed Reed says Overturning my suspension was the right thing to do but he should have gotten several games" What an asshole. I don't know what Reed did to warrant his initial suspension but I'll bet a lot of people felt that was intentional and deserving of a multi game suspension as well.



TheKanataThrilla
10 years ago

As far as what Ed Reed says Overturning my suspension was the right thing to do but he should have gotten several games" What an asshole. I don't know what Reed did to warrant his initial suspension but I'll bet a lot of people felt that was intentional and deserving of a multi game suspension as well.



Originally Posted by: sschind 



I believe the Reed suspension was on a helmet to helmet hit making a tackle. I may be totally off base, but I remember it being a WTF suspension as timing makes one of these plays difficult to prevent.

Video evidence?

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/videos/videos/Ed-Reed-Penalized-For-Unnecessary-Roughness/32ae9e81-2bf3-48f6-8cf7-ffbd36bd6342 

I believe that was the hit. You can't put this in the same league as the Suh incident.
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10 years ago

I've seen that too and how much of it comes from people who assume it was intentional just because it was Suh? A lot I can guarantee you. Put any Packers player in the exact same position and you are going to get the majority of Packer fans and a good percentage of other fans saying it was an accident.

I wonder how many people didn't even see the play before they automatically proclaimed him guilty.

Besides, its still whining. Whine about the refs, whine about the dirty play, whine about the clock whine about whatever you want its still whining. It doesn't matter if its a fact or not, incessant complaining about it is whining. It's over and done, move on.

Funny thing is fans were whining about it and then when they realized that suspension could conceivably work against us they whined about that as well. Someone (maybe not here) said Suh should not be suspended for the Dallas game but for the next Lions/Packers game. I never heard anyone suggest Raiola should have been allowed to play against the Packers and be suspended for the next Lions/Bears game. We were all happy as clams when we heard they were going to be without their starting center. That is at least until we realized their backup might actually be better.

As far as what Ed Reed says Overturning my suspension was the right thing to do but he should have gotten several games" What an asshole. I don't know what Reed did to warrant his initial suspension but I'll bet a lot of people felt that was intentional and deserving of a multi game suspension as well.



Originally Posted by: sschind 



It never occurred to me. When someone suggested that of Suh I thought it an interesting idea. I knew it would never happen.

Yeah Reed is no paragon of virtue. One of the reason I posted it was because I thought it rather funny.

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mi_keys
10 years ago

It never occurred to me. When someone suggested that of Suh I thought it an interesting idea. I knew it would never happen.

Yeah Reed is no paragon of virtue. One of the reason I posted it was because I thought it rather funny.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Warren Sapp of all people was outrage at Suh as well. I guess it takes a prick to know one.
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IronMan
10 years ago
So the suspension was reduced because Ted Cottrell bought Suh's bullshit "my feet were cold and I didn't know what I was stepping on" story. If it ws an accident, then why was he fined 70k? Half assed chicken shit logic if you ask me.

As far as if a Packer player would have done this, there is no question I would want him to be suspended. And I wouldn't want McCarthy to give the bs "I didn't see it. I have no comment" cliche statement that coaches always use when one of their players does something dirty/stupid. I never believed in the "always back your players/teammates" logic.

My dad always told me, "I will always have your back, unless you do something stupid. Don't expect me to defend you if you are in the wrong."
sschind
10 years ago

So the suspension was reduced because Ted Cottrell bought Suh's bullshit "my feet were cold and I didn't know what I was stepping on" story. If it ws an accident, then why was he fined 70k? Half assed chicken shit logic if you ask me.

As far as if a Packer player would have done this, there is no question I would want him to be suspended. And I wouldn't want McCarthy to give the bs "I didn't see it. I have no comment" cliche statement that coaches always use when one of their players does something dirty/stupid. I never believed in the "always back your players/teammates" logic.

My dad always told me, "I will always have your back, unless you do something stupid. Don't expect me to defend you if you are in the wrong."

Originally Posted by: IronMan 



I agree, it is kind of stupid logic. If it was truly unintentional then why such a high fine and if it warranted such a high fine how can they justify it wasn't intentional.

As to your second point I would hope Packers fans who thought a Packer player did something like this intentionally would want him suspended. I would for sure but my point is that far fewer would think it was intentional. Either because it was a Packer player or because it is not Ndamukong Suh. They would argue it was truly an accident.
musccy
10 years ago

So the suspension was reduced because Ted Cottrell bought Suh's bullshit "my feet were cold and I didn't know what I was stepping on" story. If it ws an accident, then why was he fined 70k? Half assed chicken shit logic if you ask me.

As far as if a Packer player would have done this, there is no question I would want him to be suspended. And I wouldn't want McCarthy to give the bs "I didn't see it. I have no comment" cliche statement that coaches always use when one of their players does something dirty/stupid. I never believed in the "always back your players/teammates" logic.

My dad always told me, "I will always have your back, unless you do something stupid. Don't expect me to defend you if you are in the wrong."

Originally Posted by: IronMan 



I have a weird mix of emotions about this. Initially I felt Packers fans were being a bit whiny. If he did this, the NFL would discipline him and you don't need a fan base with their bias leading the charge against him.

With that said, his half-assed excuse further confirms what we all knew, that he did this intentionally...and then he sort of gets off the hook, I guess? 70k is significant, although he's about to sign a contract in excess of 50 million, and as has been said, why remove one punishment to assess a different punishment? [duh]

With that said, I will shamefully acknowledge that as a biased Packer fan who doesn't want to see Dallas in the divisional round, I'm not that upset the suspension was lifted.
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