macbob
10 years ago
I wouldn't consider us a dynasty with two SB wins. I'm with Zero--with 3 wins it would be worth discussion. To me it's ludicrous to talk about 'dynasty' with us having won only one SB with Ted. And needed help to make it into the playoffs THAT year.
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If they win another SB (and I think they will,) then this could be considered a dynasty. I'd prefer them to win two more, (and I think they can) before we start throwing the D-word around, but with another SB, one could make the case.

Look at all the GMs around the league, from the Ted GM tree. That's part of it, imo.

Keep in mind, we were also robbed of the playoffs in '09.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



nope. If so then Pitt, NE, Indy and Denver are all right there with them. How many teams can you have at one time that are a considered a dynasty?
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It is not a dynasty if you compare this team to the 60's version. Much like Bart Starr's numbers pale in comparison to even today's average QB's. But he excelled in his era. This is a different era.

I consider this team to be a dynasty. They have won a Super Bowl. They have made the playoff's consistently. They have the required MVP QB. They are consistently a threat to win it all (Unless you're a Packer fan...).

How many teams have been as consistently good as the Ted Thompson Packers over the last 10 years? Patriots, for sure. Steelers and Giants are the only teams to win multiple Super Bowls in that time. Giants have had as many abysmal years as good. Steelers are too often average, in my opinion. There have been 8 different NFC teams in the Super Bowl in the last 10 years. Seahawks went 8 years between appearances and some of those years were bad. Even if Seattle wins this year, I wouldn't call them a dynasty. This is only their 3rd winning season in a row after 4 losing years.

I don't define a dynasty by winning it all. I define a dynasty by continued excellence. They qualify in today's league. In my opinion.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



It is true the eras are different. That is why there are no real dynasties these days. If you count just making he playoffs then look at all the other teams that have done the same and more from my earlier posts. You may have a couple of teams that are dynasties (One from each conference.) but you can't have 4 or 5 teams.

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PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago

It is not a dynasty if you compare this team to the 60's version. Much like Bart Starr's numbers pale in comparison to even today's average QB's. But he excelled in his era. This is a different era.

I consider this team to be a dynasty. They have won a Super Bowl. They have made the playoff's consistently. They have the required MVP QB. They are consistently a threat to win it all (Unless you're a Packer fan...).

How many teams have been as consistently good as the Ted Thompson Packers over the last 10 years? Patriots, for sure. Steelers and Giants are the only teams to win multiple Super Bowls in that time. Giants have had as many abysmal years as good. Steelers are too often average, in my opinion. There have been 8 different NFC teams in the Super Bowl in the last 10 years. Seahawks went 8 years between appearances and some of those years were bad. Even if Seattle wins this year, I wouldn't call them a dynasty. This is only their 3rd winning season in a row after 4 losing years.

I don't define a dynasty by winning it all. I define a dynasty by continued excellence. They qualify in today's league. In my opinion.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



Since probably 95, there have been very few years, that the Packers have not been considered a SB contender heading into any season. And when not it has been because of rare change. coaching or QB

Playoffs 16 of 22 seasons Since Favre took over.
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mi_keys
10 years ago

No. Thanks for asking. You actually have to win championships not just get participation ribbons to be considered a DYNASTY.

2013 lose Wild Card game.
2012 win Wild Card game, lose Divisional Playoff game.
2011 lose Divisional Playoff game.
2010 win Wild Card game, win Divisional Playoff game, win NFC Championship game WIN SUPER BOWL!!!!!
2009 lose Wild Card game.
2008 Did not qualify.
2007 win Divisional Playoff game, lose NFC Championship game.
2006 Did not qualify.
2005 Did not qualify.
2004 lose Wild Card game.

A 6-6 record with 4 of the wins coming in the same year is not a dynasty.
Failing to achieve your goal 9 times out of ten is not a dynasty. (If you throw in the extra NFC CG then failing 8 out of ten times.)
Yes they made the playoffs 7 times in the last ten seasons but that is not special. 6 teams have made the play offs 7 times or more. Another 5 teams have made it 5 times.

Pitt, New England, Indy and NYG have all won more Super Bowls.
Seattle has appeared in more SB.
SF, Philly and Baltimore have appeared in more NFC or AFC CG
Denver, Atlanta, Chicago and NYJ have appeared in as many NFC CG.

Nothing here looks like a dynasty. Just a team like many others who makes the playoffs on a regular basis.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Couple corrections:
  • New England only has one title (2004 season) in the above time frame; since Ted Thompson took over in Green Bay, New England has not won a title
  • Indy only has the one title (2006 season)
  • New Orleans has also appeared in the same number of NFC Championship games (2: 2006 and 2009 seasons) as Green Bay
  • Philly has the same number of appearances in the NFC Championship game (2: 2004 and 2008 seasons), not more; and if you consider just the Ted Thompson era, Philly only has the one appearance (same with Atlanta for that matter)

The premise still holds true, though: we are not a dynasty.

It really annoys me when people throw words like dynasty around, they lose their meaning. My generation is doing the same with the words 'literally' and 'epic' right now and it's simply maddening. I'm sorry, but that burrito you ate last night was not epic; and your one title team is not a dynasty.
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Mucky Tundra
10 years ago
I think the only team that can be labeled a dynasty in the loosest sense since the Cowpokes of the early 90s are the Patriots from 01-07.
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago

I think the only team that can be labeled a dynasty in the loosest sense since the Cowpokes of the early 90s are the Patriots from 01-07.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



I went through all NFL Championships quickly and here is my list of dynasties.


The year is probably off because I listed the year of the championship game, not the season.

Chicago Bears 1940 + 1941 + 1943 = Dynasty
Cleveland Browns 1950 + 1954 + 1955 = Dynasty
Green Bay Packers 1966 + 1967 + 1968 = Dynasty
Pittsburgh Steelers 1975 + 1976 + 1979 + 1980 = Dynasty
San Francisco 1985 + 1989 + 1990 = Dynasty
Dallas Cowboys 1992 + 1993 + 1995 = Dynasty
New England Patriots 2002 + 2004 + 2005 = Dynasty


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Mucky Tundra
10 years ago

I went through all NFL Championships quickly and here is my list of dynasties.


The year is probably off because I listed the year of the championship game, not the season.

Chicago Bears 1940 + 1941 + 1943 = Dynasty
Cleveland Browns 1950 + 1954 + 1955 = Dynasty
Green Bay Packers 1966 + 1967 + 1968 = Dynasty
Pittsburgh Steelers 1975 + 1976 + 1979 + 1980 = Dynasty
San Francisco 1985 + 1989 + 1990 = Dynasty
Dallas Cowboys 1992 + 1993 + 1995 = Dynasty
New England Patriots 2002 + 2004 + 2005 = Dynasty

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



No first Packers threepeat (I think it's 29-31 or around that time frame off the top of my head)?

And what's the cut off for the 49ers and not listing all five of their titles?


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Zero2Cool
10 years ago

I suppose that should be added too, but wasn't listed from the 1933-1969 list I was going off from and then the Super Bowl list I was using.


No first Packers threepeat (I think it's 29-31 or around that time frame off the top of my head)?

And what's the cut off for the 49ers and not listing all five of their titles?

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Dynasty is defined by yours truly as winning 3 of 5 NFL Championships during a five year period.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




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mi_keys
10 years ago

I suppose that should be added too, but wasn't listed from the 1933-1969 list I was going off from and then the Super Bowl list I was using.






Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



By your own definition that you quoted, you shouldn't have included the 49ers period. The most they won in any 5 year period was 2.
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