nerdmann
10 years ago

At times a lot is made of how Ted Thompson constructs the Green Bay Packers roster. The mantra of his regime has been “Draft and Develop.” Year in and year out the Packers are if not the youngest team in the league, they are not far behind. The risky part of this strategy is the

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“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago
He at least has to be given credit for maintaining the dynasty. After all only one pick matters in this being a dynasty and that is Rodgers. Imagine today, if Ted had caved and let Brett back. Rodgers would be on a different team today and no telling what we would have at the QB position. So while the Rodgers pick was a no brainer given the circumstances. The decisions that resulted in keeping Rodgers in Green and Gold is the sole reason the team is still going as a dynasty. Which I consider to be continuous since 92'.

If not for Either of those two QBs, I am afraid to think of where the team would be today.

The rest of Teds picks don't really matter, without Rodgers it wouldn't matter who else they drafted unless it was another stud QB.


The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
sschind
10 years ago
I think someone is being a bit loose with the term dynasty.
yooperfan
10 years ago
Maybe.
If winning division titles is what defines a dynasty.
wpr
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10 years ago
No. Thanks for asking. You actually have to win championships not just get participation ribbons to be considered a DYNASTY.

2013 lose Wild Card game.
2012 win Wild Card game, lose Divisional Playoff game.
2011 lose Divisional Playoff game.
2010 win Wild Card game, win Divisional Playoff game, win NFC Championship game WIN SUPER BOWL!!!!!
2009 lose Wild Card game.
2008 Did not qualify.
2007 win Divisional Playoff game, lose NFC Championship game.
2006 Did not qualify.
2005 Did not qualify.
2004 lose Wild Card game.

A 6-6 record with 4 of the wins coming in the same year is not a dynasty.
Failing to achieve your goal 9 times out of ten is not a dynasty. (If you throw in the extra NFC CG then failing 8 out of ten times.)
Yes they made the playoffs 7 times in the last ten seasons but that is not special. 6 teams have made the play offs 7 times or more. Another 5 teams have made it 5 times.

Pitt, New England, Indy and NYG have all won more Super Bowls.
Seattle has appeared in more SB.
SF, Philly and Baltimore have appeared in more NFC or AFC CG
Denver, Atlanta, Chicago and NYJ have appeared in as many NFC CG.

Nothing here looks like a dynasty. Just a team like many others who makes the playoffs on a regular basis.
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago
Dynasty is defined by yours truly as winning 3 of 5 NFL Championships during a five year period.
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yooperfan
10 years ago

Dynasty is defined by yours truly as winning 3 of 5 NFL Championships during a five year period.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Division championship?
NFC championship?
Super Bowl Championship?

Which?

nerdmann
10 years ago

No. Thanks for asking. You actually have to win championships not just get participation ribbons to be considered a DYNASTY.

2013 lose Wild Card game.
2012 win Wild Card game, lose Divisional Playoff game.
2011 lose Divisional Playoff game.
2010 win Wild Card game, win Divisional Playoff game, win NFC Championship game WIN SUPER BOWL!!!!!
2009 lose Wild Card game.
2008 Did not qualify.
2007 win Divisional Playoff game, lose NFC Championship game.
2006 Did not qualify.
2005 Did not qualify.
2004 lose Wild Card game.

A 6-6 record with 4 of the wins coming in the same year is not a dynasty.
Failing to achieve your goal 9 times out of ten is not a dynasty. (If you throw in the extra NFC CG then failing 8 out of ten times.)
Yes they made the playoffs 7 times in the last ten seasons but that is not special. 6 teams have made the play offs 7 times or more. Another 5 teams have made it 5 times.

Pitt, New England, Indy and NYG have all won more Super Bowls.
Seattle has appeared in more SB.
SF, Philly and Baltimore have appeared in more NFC or AFC CG
Denver, Atlanta, Chicago and NYJ have appeared in as many NFC CG.

Nothing here looks like a dynasty. Just a team like many others who makes the playoffs on a regular basis.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



If they win another SB (and I think they will,) then this could be considered a dynasty. I'd prefer them to win two more, (and I think they can) before we start throwing the D-word around, but with another SB, one could make the case.

Look at all the GMs around the league, from the Ted GM tree. That's part of it, imo.

Keep in mind, we were also robbed of the playoffs in '09.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
nerdmann
10 years ago

He at least has to be given credit for maintaining the dynasty. After all only one pick matters in this being a dynasty and that is Rodgers. Imagine today, if Ted had caved and let Brett back. Rodgers would be on a different team today and no telling what we would have at the QB position. So while the Rodgers pick was a no brainer given the circumstances. The decisions that resulted in keeping Rodgers in Green and Gold is the sole reason the team is still going as a dynasty. Which I consider to be continuous since 92'.

If not for Either of those two QBs, I am afraid to think of where the team would be today.

The rest of Teds picks don't really matter, without Rodgers it wouldn't matter who else they drafted unless it was another stud QB.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Aaron was nowhere near this good when he was drafted. Hell, he wasn't very good his first two years. It was only that next offseason where he got up to speed with Mike.

Ted drafted Aaron, true. But he also hired Mike to develop Aaron. That was the move that made it happen, IMO.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
QCHuskerFan
10 years ago
It is not a dynasty if you compare this team to the 60's version. Much like Bart Starr's numbers pale in comparison to even today's average QB's. But he excelled in his era. This is a different era.

I consider this team to be a dynasty. They have won a Super Bowl. They have made the playoff's consistently. They have the required MVP QB. They are consistently a threat to win it all (Unless you're a Packer fan...).

How many teams have been as consistently good as the Ted Thompson Packers over the last 10 years? Patriots, for sure. Steelers and Giants are the only teams to win multiple Super Bowls in that time. Giants have had as many abysmal years as good. Steelers are too often average, in my opinion. There have been 8 different NFC teams in the Super Bowl in the last 10 years. Seahawks went 8 years between appearances and some of those years were bad. Even if Seattle wins this year, I wouldn't call them a dynasty. This is only their 3rd winning season in a row after 4 losing years.

I don't define a dynasty by winning it all. I define a dynasty by continued excellence. They qualify in today's league. In my opinion.
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