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He watched in stunned silence as his NFC championship qualifying team from a year ago crumbled. He was criticized heavily for trading quarterback Brett Favre. And he oversaw the firings of nearly half the coaching staff after the Packers disastrous 6-10 campaign.

Perhaps no other general manager in Packers history, with the possible exception of Dan Devine, has been the focal point of so much vitriol from the fan base.

Whats ironic is that most of the anger directed at Thompson stems from one of his few good moves during the past year. His decision to jettison the over-the-hill Favre in favor of ascending quarterback Aaron Rodgers was both courageous and wise, even if it instigated a civil war among fans.

Many will never forgive Thompson for trading the legendary Favre to the New York Jets, even if it was absolutely the correct move. Assuming the pro-Favre backers eventually end their temper tantrum, they will realize there are more compelling reasons to be ticked off at Thompson.

Nearly everything Thompson touched in 2008 turned to stone. Its imperative that Thompson shake out of his slump if the Packers want to return to prosperity.

Some critical mistakes contributed to the Packers franchise-record seven-game slide that turned one of the best teams in the league into one of the worst:

# Former Packers General Manager Mike Sherman wrote the book on bad defensive line decisions. Who can forget busts like Joe Johnson, Cletidus Hunt, Kenny Peterson, James Lee and Donnell Washington?

Well, Thompson added some chapters to Shermans sad story. For starters, Thompson bet the family farm on injury-prone 2007 first-round draft pick Justin Harrell and lost. His faith in Harrell led to the trade of Corey Williams last off-season. The acquisition of a second-round draft choice for the seemingly expendable and high-priced Williams appeared shrewd at the time, but when Harrell flopped, it left a gaping hole in the middle of the line. It didnt help that Thompson used that draft pick to select quarterback Brian Brohm, who was relegated to third-string inactive status all season.

Thompson then made a $6 million blunder when he kept Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila on the opening-day roster. It didnt take long to figure out the aging KGB had nothing left, and the Packers cut him at mid-season but were obligated to pay his full salary. Thats a lot of wasted cash, but worse, the line was left in shambles with no depth. Thompson failed to provide enough manpower at one of the most important positions, and the Packers paid the price with several late-game defensive collapses.

# What could Thompson have been thinking when he traded back six spots and out of the first round last April? This is no knock on Jordy Nelson, who was a serviceable No. 3 or No. 4 receiver and was selected with the 36th overall pick. But Thompson needed to bolster his defense, and end Phillip Merling and safety Kenny Phillips were still on the board when the Packers were holding their original No. 30 pick. Thompson has virtually ignored the defense in the last two drafts, devoting just five of 20 picks to that side of the ball with no starters in the bunch. His penchant for trading down and accumulating extra picks worked early in his tenure when Thompson was rebuilding the roster. But now the Packers need some immediate impact, which means picking as high in the draft as possible.

# Thompson did no favors to the Packers special teams, another factor in several of the teams narrow defeats. He should nail this banner to his Lambeau Field office wall: If it aint broke, dont fix it.

Jon Ryan wasnt a problem punter, yet the Packers inexplicably thought they could do better with Washington Redskins castoff Derrick Frost. The disastrous decision to cut Ryan resulted in three months of punting misery, left the Packers constantly playing catch-up in the field position battle and ultimately sent special teams coach Mike Stock into retirement.

Another gaffe was the decision to cut the best special teams player on the team, Tracy White, in early October. Stock admitted the day after the season ended that losing White hurt, and hinted he had nothing to do with the move. If Thompson truly believes special teams are important, then why get rid of a star performer? No wonder the Packers finished dead last in the NFL in kickoff returns, and the kickoff team failed in some crucial late-game situations.

# Any excuse for not having Ryan Grant signed by the start of training camp is a bad one. Grants agent publicly blasted the Packers last summer for their nonchalant approach to negotiations, and who could blame him? Right or wrong, the Packers concluded following the 2007 season that Grant was their go-to running back for the foreseeable future. So instead of dilly-dallying around, Thompson needed to get him signed. Instead, Grant arrived a week late, predictably suffered an injury, and then was slow out of the gate. Grant needed the full benefits of the off-season program, training camp and the exhibition season. Management is supposed to put players in the best position to succeed, but Thompson failed to deliver.

Mike Vandermause is sports editor of the Press-Gazette.

Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
Vandermause raises some valid points, but you do have to consider the source. As far as Vandermause is concerned, nothing Ted Thompson ever does is right. He's an unabashed Thompson critic and doesn't even pretend to be objective.
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16 years ago

Vandermause raises some valid points, but you do have to consider the source. As far as Vandermause is concerned, nothing Ted Thompson ever does is right. He's an unabashed Thompson critic and doesn't even pretend to be objective.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



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Vandermause raises some valid points, but you do have to consider the source. As far as Vandermause is concerned, nothing Ted Thompson ever does is right. He's an unabashed Thompson critic and doesn't even pretend to be objective.

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Well he said trading Favre was the best way to go which is praise towards TT. But the rest are valid points. But i won't go any farther because everyone knows how i feel of TT.
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He raises some good points but I'd like to say a couple things.

1.) It was a 5 game slide, not a 7 game slide. I get really annoyed when people get paid to write or talk about sports and they can't get simple facts like this right.

2.) He says to get an impact player you have to draft as early as possible. Well TT's two earliest draft picks have been Harrell and Hawk. Harrell hasn't been able to stay healthy and Hawk hasn't lived up to his potential past his rookie season (though I still believe he'll turn it around and be a good linebacker for us). TT's best pick was Greg Jennings and he traded down to get him instead of taking the receiver New England ended up taking in Chad Jackson. Jackson has 14 career receptions and has only played in 18 games. Getting a player that can have a major impact on your team during his rookie year is about doing your homework while scouting, not how early in the draft you're taking him.
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16 years ago
+ 1 for your insights
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Vandermause raises some valid points, but you do have to consider the source. As far as Vandermause is concerned, nothing Ted Thompson ever does is right. He's an unabashed Thompson critic and doesn't even pretend to be objective.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:


Thats not true. He has repeatedly praised Thompson for his handling of the Favre saga.
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1.) It was a 5 game slide, not a 7 game slide. I get really annoyed when people get paid to write or talk about sports and they can't get simple facts like this right.

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I did a double-take on that one too, then I realized what he meant: The Packers slid from 13 wins in 2007 to 6 wins in 2008.

I think this is a pretty accurate breakdown of the major things that went wrong from a GM standpoint. A lot of it is just hindsight, of course, but there are some that looked bad right from the beginning. The decision to cut Jon Ryan is an obvious one. Also, he lowballed Ryan Grant, which might have made sense had he stuck to it, but then he ended up signing Grant to a big contract anyway.

It was a tough year for Ted. I sure hope he has another good run in him. For a couple years there, he was shitting little gold coins.
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I am always wary of this kind of criticism. I try to remember what I thought about the decision at the time it was made, instead of the easy way to go, which is 20/20 hindsight. I read this article twice, the second time reminding myself of what I have just stated here. Hindsight is a large part of what we do on these forums, but that doesn't lessen my irritation at this type of critique, as Yondermouse doesn't post here, he "posts" in a world heavily populated with Ted Thompson haters...the haters that will continue to blindly hate due to the decision as regards a certain HOF quarterback, and he knows it.
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I am always wary of this kind of criticism. I try to remember what I thought about the decision at the time it was made, instead of the easy way to go, which is 20/20 hindsight. I read this article twice, the second time reminding myself of what I have just stated here. Hindsight is a large part of what we do on these forums, but that doesn't lessen my irritation at this type of critique, as Yondermouse doesn't post here, he "posts" in a world heavily populated with Ted Thompson haters...the haters that will continue to blindly hate due to the decision as regards a certain HOF quarterback, and he knows it.

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Yet, Vandermause has said over and over again that Thompson made the right decision going with Rodgers. Mike Vandermause is not a Ted basher.

And as far as hindsight goes; several people, including myself, questioned at the time, his decision to draft an injured DT in the 1st round, and his decision to, a week before the regular season, cut Jon Ryan, who's 37.6 net average in 2007, was the best by a Packers punter in 38 years, and then replaces him with a guy that didn't even have a try out. That was a terrible decision. And several people said so at the time of the decision.
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I am always wary of this kind of criticism. I try to remember what I thought about the decision at the time it was made, instead of the easy way to go, which is 20/20 hindsight. I read this article twice, the second time reminding myself of what I have just stated here. Hindsight is a large part of what we do on these forums, but that doesn't lessen my irritation at this type of critique, as Yondermouse doesn't post here, he "posts" in a world heavily populated with Ted Thompson haters...the haters that will continue to blindly hate due to the decision as regards a certain HOF quarterback, and he knows it.

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I don't have a problem with it, because I don't see Vandermause making any claims about having predicted that these moves would turn out bad. He even said that the Corey Williams trade "appeared shrewd at the time." This is just an analysis of what went wrong. And yes, a lot of these moves were widely criticized at the time they were made anyway.
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Here is what I said about the punter decision at the time: (Another forum)

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I found this move "off the wall". Heck, Jon was our leading rusher last week. We got trench trouble, and this is what gets done? Hodge goes, Bush stays? I'm not seein' it, unless it's a Ted Thompson 50/50 move or something... total disruption of the punting game, coupled with the retention of a semi-qualified Bush as ST player. I don't really give a crap about directional punting when my punter's butt is hanging over the back of his own end zone, and no one can tell me this new aquisition is superior in that situation.



My point is that my point got missed. Read the commentary in the JS Online or the GBP Gazette... More often than not, it seems like the article wasn't even read by the people posting, but rather is used as a vehicle for the "airing of the grievances". I don't doubt Ironman's objectivity for one second, but I DO doubt the objectivity of about 99% of the readers that take the time to respond to whatever MV. writes, and I feel like this type of critique only feeds a very tragic fire.

I will be happy to also find what I said (and say) about JH, but it is also irrelevant to my point.
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My point is that my point got missed. Read the commentary in the JS Online or the GBP Gazette... More often than not, it seems like the article wasn't even read by the people posting, but rather is used as a vehicle for the "airing of the grievances". I don't doubt Ironman's objectivity for one second, but I DO doubt the objectivity of about 99% of the readers that take the time to respond to whatever MV. writes, and I feel like this type of critique only feeds a very tragic fire.

I will be happy to also find what I said (and say) about JH, but it is also irrelevant to my point.

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I occasionally glance at those comments from readers after the articles, and most of them are ridiculous. Both newspapers could improve their web sites by eliminating reader comments. I doubt very much that the writers let those comments affect what they write, though. The lunatic fringe can never be placated.
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16 years ago
Vandermause only praised the Rodgers decision after it became obvious it was going to pan out well (and the retraction he posted after the season was over was weak, at best). Before the season, he ripped Thompson ceaselessly for choosing Rodgers over Favre, among other decisions. Like most "sports analysts," Vandermause is a lame frontrunner. He'll heap all the team's successes on Thompson one week when the team wins, they blame all their problems on Thompson's decisions the next week when they lose. He doesn't take a season-long perspective.
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1.) It was a 5 game slide, not a 7 game slide. I get really annoyed when people get paid to write or talk about sports and they can't get simple facts like this right.

"Greg C." wrote:



I did a double-take on that one too, then I realized what he meant: The Packers slid from 13 wins in 2007 to 6 wins in 2008.

I think this is a pretty accurate breakdown of the major things that went wrong from a GM standpoint. A lot of it is just hindsight, of course, but there are some that looked bad right from the beginning. The decision to cut Jon Ryan is an obvious one. Also, he lowballed Ryan Grant, which might have made sense had he stuck to it, but then he ended up signing Grant to a big contract anyway.

It was a tough year for Ted. I sure hope he has another good run in him. For a couple years there, he was shitting little gold coins.

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Ah, well if he did indeed mean it that way than my apologies for correcting him. I also hate it when people correct others who were correct to begin with, lol.
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If Thompson is guilty of anything it's not going deep enough with the "what if" game and dealing with the scenario of "what if Jenkins goes down and KGB is done?" Now there are other contributing factors such as Harrell not being ready for many games and Jolly not performing at his best either.

The truth is all teams have weak points where if things don't go well in those areas with injuries that team is going to suffer. NO team is so strong and so deep in every segment of the game this won't happen.

IMO our two areas were EXACTLY what happened along the DL and #2 would have been if Arod went down.

To Thompson's credit if a DB or CB got hurt, which they did, that was covered. If a LB went down we were alright. A RB or WR? No big problem. A couple of decent shuffle moves could be made along the OL.

The hammer came down on the nail that happened to seal the coffin holding the cold body of our seasons fate when Jenkins went down and KGB failed to perform.

I look at it this way. It was unfortunate but it can be fixed. Between a new scheme and couple of new faces along the DL I look for way better next year.
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16 years ago



Yet, Vandermause has said over and over again that Thompson made the right decision going with Rodgers. Mike Vandermause is not a Ted basher.

And as far as hindsight goes; several people, including myself, questioned at the time, his decision to draft an injured DT in the 1st round, and his decision to, a week before the regular season, cut Jon Ryan, who's 37.6 net average in 2007, was the best by a Packers punter in 38 years, and then replaces him with a guy that didn't even have a try out. That was a terrible decision. And several people said so at the time of the decision.

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That's the thing. Yes, several of us did at the time question those 2 moves. I also questioned at the time getting rid of Corey Williams because Ted Thompson had faith in his first round bust of a DT.

So it's not always hindsight.
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16 years ago
Let's get something clear here. Williams was gone no matter what. He was not going to settle for anything less than twice what he was worth. We got something for NOTHING when we made the trade with the Browns.

Even with what happened, I wouldn't have paid him what he's getting now because he is not the player his salary implies he is. He would not have made that much of a difference as some people think he would.

Again, Williams was GONE and we snagged a 2nd rounder for him and then (in my opinion and I feel we need two more years for it to be a 'true' one at that) blew it away on Brohm.

Does anyone remember Williams kneeling down after the Seahawks game and getting emotional as if it he knew it was his last game at Lambeau?


Stop playing the hindsight game and blasting a GM who got something for nothing. Remember this quote? "I wanted out of Green Bay and I'm glad Cleveland called me".

Let's quit the if we had Williams talk because he didn't want to be here, and we were not going to spend the money on him that he wanted. He was not and is not worth the amount he's getting. He produced fairly decent stats because KGB and Kampman took quite a bit of attention and let's not forget having a stout secondary.

I am glad we didn't waste the money on him, but I am not glad we picked up Brohm and we didn't have an insurance plan worth a damn if/when Harrell got injured/flopped.

Sometimes you just don't have the resources to cover every single base. Sometimes you hit, sometimes you miss. We missed on our DL.
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16 years ago

Does anyone remember Williams kneeling down after the Seahawks game and getting emotional as if it he knew it was his last game at Lambeau?

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I think that was because Williams realized that may, keyword may, have been his last game as a Packer, at Lambeau.

If I remember correctly, when asked about the kneeling down after the Giants (not Seahawks) game at Lambeau, Williams admitted he got emotional realizing it may be the end of the line for him (and probably a little upset at coming so close and losing it like they did).

Let's quit the if we had Williams talk because he didn't want to be here, and we were not going to spend the money on him that he wanted.

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Actually, I'm going to say that Williams was pissed because he got franchised. The reason he didn't want to come back was because he felt the Packers were in the wrong limiting his options by franchising him when they clearly stated they wouldn't meet his demands during contract negotiations.

Once again, after the NFC Championship game, Williams said something along the lines of being open to a return to Green Bay (signing a new contract with the team), but realizing that any thing can happen in the business side of things in the NFL.


He was not and is not worth the amount he's getting. He produced fairly decent stats because KGB and Kampman took quite a bit of attention and let's not forget having a stout secondary.

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Williams value has to be more than just a pass rusher. Especially in the playoffs last year, he was outstanding at getting penetration and forcing the RB out side, at times even tackling the RB for a loss.

Williams won one on one match-ups, and considering this past year's lack of that his value was important.

I agree with the overpaying part, he deserved good money, but the contract he got was a lot bigger than he deserved.
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16 years ago
Well that's the entire purpose of franchising a player - to limit their offers from other teams. It's kind of silly that players keep getting mad about it. Look at New England and Asante Samuel. They clearly weren't going to match the high offers in 2008 after franchising him in '07.

The thing is, Samuel is one of the best CB's in the league when it comes to zone defenses. Hard to say the same thing about C. Williams at DT, as much as I liked the guy. He was definitely demanding far more than he was worth.


I also don't think releasing Corey Williams had anything to do with "relying on a 1st round bust" to replace him. There were plenty of other DT's on the roster, and I assumed it was common knowledge even among those OUTSIDE of the organization that Harrell is a project. Nobody thought he would suddenly emerge in '08 after his '07 injury/surgery history.
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