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Packers very likely to sign WR Cobb even if it doesn't happen during the regular season

Is it plausible that the Green Bay Packers would let Randall Cobb walk in free agency this offseason?

Sure, it's plausible. But very unlikely.

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If Jennings and Jones along with others have proven anything. Stay if you want solid numbers. Go if you want big money.
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago
If reports are true, Greg Jennings ended up with less money.

Randall Cobb should hit free agency. I think the Patriots will give him a lot of cash and he could replace Julian Edleman.


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DoddPower
10 years ago

If reports are true, Greg Jennings ended up with less money.

Randall Cobb should hit free agency. I think the Patriots will give him a lot of cash and he could replace Julian Edleman.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Ugh. That would be rough in a couple seasons when Brady is gone. The Patriots don't have his replacement on their roster, at this point, imo. Jimmy Garoppolo? Nah.
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I suppose this is as good of a place as any to mention that more than likely Cobb will not be throwing the ball.

When he was drafted there were a few members here who thought for sure they would wildcat with him and let him pull up from the run to throw the ball. One pass his rookie season. that's it. Even when Rodgers was injured last year they didn't have Cobb throw the ball.
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10 years ago

If Jennings and Jones along with others have proven anything. Stay if you want solid numbers. Go if you want big money.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



What if he signs with Seattle or Indianapolis?

I suppose this is as good of a place as any to mention that more than likely Cobb will not be throwing the ball.

When he was drafted there were a few members here who thought for sure they would wildcat with him and let him pull up from the run to throw the ball. One pass his rookie season. that's it. Even when Rodgers was injured last year they didn't have Cobb throw the ball.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I'm still disappointed we never went wildcat with Cobb+5 TEs his rookie year.
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Depends on they type of guy he is. If he wants every last dime he can get because he is greedy or if he is one of those "your offer is insulting to my talent level" type a-holes then he will test the market. Bottom line is he will most likely be cashing a check for around 12 million and averaging another 6 million a year for the next 4 or 5 years. He might be able to milk another 5-6 million from another team but at what cost to his productivity and his status.

If it were me this is what I would do. I would go to the Packers and say "I think I am as valuable to this team as Jordy. Give me the same contract he got and I'll sign today"
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Like many others, I want Cobb to stay in Green Bay. He's young, versatile and is a true weapon in the Packers offense. He adds something that no other receiver on this team adds.

A few thoughts on the whole situation:
- How much is he going to demand? Jordy's contract is very team friendly being back-loaded. Do we see something similar for Cobb? I keep seeing statements about how Cobb will demand more than Nelson. I don't see how that is realistic.
- Will the players have to make a difficult decision on another player's contract with the signing of Cobb? First player that comes to my mind is Tramon Williams. Free agent after this year.
- Do we really think Ted Thompson is going to let one of his star picks walk on his first contract negotiation?


How much would you pay Cobb?
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Depends on they type of guy he is. If he wants every last dime he can get because he is greedy or if he is one of those "your offer is insulting to my talent level" type a-holes then he will test the market. Bottom line is he will most likely be cashing a check for around 12 million and averaging another 6 million a year for the next 4 or 5 years. He might be able to milk another 5-6 million from another team but at what cost to his productivity and his status.

If it were me this is what I would do. I would go to the Packers and say "I think I am as valuable to this team as Jordy. Give me the same contract he got and I'll sign today"

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I know you're not (necessarily) saying this, but he's in no way as valuable to this team as Jordy. He's a hell of a #2, but when the clock is running down and you need a first down or a TD against top-end coverage, is there anybody in the league you'd take over Rodgers to Nelson? Cobb's important to the Packers but not irreplaceable. I don't see anybody on the Packers roster that could replace Nelson anytime soon. Ted's shown year after year when he releases our star WRs that the rookies he's brought in are maturing into cheap, effective replacements. Give Adams a year or two and he could provide a very similar skillset to Cobb.
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10 years ago

I know you're not (necessarily) saying this, but he's in no way as valuable to this team as Jordy. He's a hell of a #2, but when the clock is running down and you need a first down or a TD against top-end coverage, is there anybody in the league you'd take over Rodgers to Nelson? Cobb's important to the Packers but not irreplaceable. I don't see anybody on the Packers roster that could replace Nelson anytime soon. Ted's shown year after year when he releases our star WRs that the rookies he's brought in are maturing into cheap, effective replacements. Give Adams a year or two and he could provide a very similar skillset to Cobb.

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Adams has definintely proven he can be a #3. My only concern with Cobb leaving is Boykin has appeared to regress (I realize he has had injuries) and we have only seen Jared Abbrederis and Jeff Janis for pre-season and limited gametime action. I am not sure the comfort factor is there for Ted Thompson or MM to let Cobb walk.

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What if he signs with Seattle or Indianapolis?



I'm still disappointed we never went wildcat with Cobb+5 TEs his rookie year.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Then let him go.

When you already have the best QB in the league, not me.
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10 years ago

Then let him go.

When you already have the best QB in the league, not me.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



It would have been worth it simply for the uniqueness of it. I mean, Rodgers is great and all but such an oddity only comes around once in a life time and McCarthy missed it. I don't think we ever went with 5 TEs even with Rodgers in at QB.
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10 years ago

It would have been worth it simply for the uniqueness of it. I mean, Rodgers is great and all but such an oddity only comes around once in a life time and McCarthy missed it. I don't think we ever went with 5 TEs even with Rodgers in at QB.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



There is probably a reason he didn't. 2 or 3 of the TE couldn't catch the ball. Several couldn't block.
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10 years ago

There is probably a reason he didn't. 2 or 3 of the TE couldn't catch the ball. Several couldn't block.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Wouldn't have mattered-just throw it to Finley and enter a footnote into NFL lore! Everybody wins except the opposing D 🖐
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One thing of which we can all be certain is that Ted will have affixed a value to Cobb, from which he will not acquiesce.
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Wouldn't have mattered-just throw it to Finley and enter a footnote into NFL lore! Everybody wins except the opposing D 🖐

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Alright. Fine. You win. Provided JerMike actually caught the ball that is.
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10 years ago

One thing of which we can all be certain is that Ted will have affixed a value to Cobb, from which he will not acquiesce.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Agreed, Ted will not vary one iota in that regard.

Had to give you applaud just for using the word acquiesce.👍


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Agreed, Ted will not vary one iota in that regard.

Had to give you applaud just for using the word acquiesce.👍

Originally Posted by: Gilligan 



Yeah, but he gets a few lashes in the dojo for using that word.

Actually, I think Cobb has some real bargaining power. Adams isn't there yet, and we still don't have the elite athletic tight end. The guys we have at tight end are adequate, but not good enough to think they can steal some of Cobb's production to be arrogant enough to let him walk. Our young receivers provide a large drop-off in ability that Cobb has shown.

How much money do we have to use before the end of the year?
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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
I'm warming up to the idea of re-signing him. Somebody said sign him for Jordy Nelson-type money. I would say that as a top limit. One thing I have noticed about Cobb this year: he seems a little bit bulked up. I'm thinking/hoping this makes him less flimsy, more able to avoid injury. Obviously, any receiver with the Packers performs better than others around the league because of Aaron Rodgers. If Cobb recognizes and appreciates that fact more than Jennings and Jones, we should and will keep him.

A word about Boykin: I think he can count; I think he expects Cobb to be re-signed; I think he knows Abbrederis should come back strong and Janis will progress; Of course, he could sign with somebody else, as I think he, too, is a free agent. However, if he hopes to stay with the Packers, I think he is taking his cue from the other Jarrett - Bush, and trying to make himself really valuable on special teams. That might be the only way he would stay as a 6th receiver.
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Yeah, but he gets a few lashes in the dojo for using that word.

Actually, I think Cobb has some real bargaining power. Adams isn't there yet, and we still don't have the elite athletic tight end. The guys we have at tight end are adequate, but not good enough to think they can steal some of Cobb's production to be arrogant enough to let him walk. Our young receivers provide a large drop-off in ability that Cobb has shown.

How much money do we have to use before the end of the year?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Not a dime. They can carry over to 2015

from same article: 


the salary cap projected to spike from $133 million to perhaps as much as $145 million next year and $160 million in 2016.
Cap room shouldn't be an issue — the Packers have about $8.2 million remaining this year, according to the NFL Players Association. Based off next year's projections they probably will have $30 million in cap room with a free-agent list that includes Tramon Williams, B.J. Raji, Bryan Bulaga and Letroy Guion.


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cheeseheads123
10 years ago
Don't see how the Packers don't re-sign him.

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