You have a lot here so I will break it out a little bit and remove some of it for expediency's sake.
Sorry. When people refer to players as fat pieces of shit, I assumed they didn't care for them. I didn't realize that was a rational discussion of their maternal grandmothers genetics.
Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan
I didn't see this. There are some posters comments that I do not read. I agree it is uncalled for. I will say that I like having big fatties on the DL. I want them to clog the middle and stop the run. If you take away the run and make a team one dimensional you have a better chance of winning. A team can still devote their resources to the secondary and have a wall for a DL.
If I cared enough, we could probably find the posts last year complaining about how the Packers needed to defend the Read Option better. They were endless after the 49ers destroyed the Packer playoffs 2 years in a row. So Capers made an adjustment. Is it right? Well, if the only measure is shutting out the other teams and winning the Super Bowl, it's not.
Don't bother. I know we did. It was embarrassing. SF made them look like they were a HS team that had never seen those kinds of formations.
I know GB has to stop the read option QB but they can do so without making themselves so soft against the run overall. And I am not so sure they really were that effective with this new system stopping the read option. Other teams have looked at GB and taken what they are given and moving down field at ease. Either with the pass or the run.
One of my points is that the Packers Defense is better than last year. In a year in which defense is not easy, the Packers are giving up less points than last year. So the lunatic ranters are not only wrong, but ignorant of facts. (Yes, I realize that facts hinder online forum tough guys.)
If run defense was so important, how is it that the Packers are 5-3? Oakland Raiders have the 8th best yards per carry defense. Would you rather be a fan of the Raiders? They are much better, right?
I realize many will look at the points as being the only stat that counts but I don’t think so. (We had a discussion on this board a year or two ago.) It is an indicator but the other stats have to be included. For example a team can lose a game by 30 points and win 15 games by 1 point be 15-1 and still have given more points than they scored. Another team can win their only game by 30 points and lost 15 by one point and have a better point total margin. The same can be said for how many points a defense gives up. If a team gets into a shootout and they resemble an arena football team they may have a great defense but they are still going to give up more points than a ball control team that slowly plods down field burning up the clock and limited both tams to a possession a quarter.
I looked at a bunch of stats for 13 and 14 but I am not going to post them all here. I probably didn’t say it correctly when I said the defense is worse this year than last. I was referring to the run defense. However, over all defense is almost the same as last year. Total yards almost the same. Time of possession worse this year. Penalties about the same. Yards per play a little better. The old “get off the field” indicator 3rd down conversions worse this year. 4th down slightly better but naturally there are not a lot of those in a game. Giving up big plays is down quite a bit from last year.
Here is my concern, if another team can look at GB and find the weakness they can dictate the game and control what the GB offense is able to do. I know the NFL rules favor the offense these days but if GB has a defense that is so strong the other team can not move the ball GB will find a way to win with Aaron as the QB. If we have to shrug our shoulders and say oh well it is an offense dominated league and GB simply has to score more points in order to win they will only be slightly better than .500 year after year until Aaron gets to old &/or injured to keep and they will fall into the cellar quickly.
The main deference between GB and Oakland is #12. Aaron makes the receivers not the other way around. Jordy started out like a bolt of lighting and once other teams focused more on him be became a little more pedestrian in his numbers. (First 4 games receptions: 9/9/5/10 2nd 4: 1/9/4/3. Yards from largest to smallest: 209/108/83/59 vs. 107/80/66/25.) I am not advocating the dumping of Jordy. I am simply saying the offense begins and ends with Aaron.
It right for fans to have expectations and hopes. I do. But I don't cuss and yell at individuals when they don't do what I want. I don't call people that I've never met 'Fat Pieces of Shit' based on how well I perceive they are doing something I am infinitely less capable of doing, let alone understanding.
You are a better person than others. I try and take the rants with a grain of salt.
I am just asking for a little perspective. The Packers are not going to win the Super Bowl. Only 1 team is, so the odds are against any individual team. We didn't win when we were 15-1 so why would we this year? It just gets old listening to the whiners that come out everytime the Packers lose. 16-0 is not going to happen. Winning the Super Bowl every year is not going to happen. If that is how a person measures success, it is no wonder there are so many hateful people.
I can’t speak for everyone but those who are frustrated with the Packers performances this year and in the past few years know they won’t go 19-0. They know that they won’t win a SB every single year.
I am not trying to pick on you or your age but many of those who are frustrated lived though the teams of the 70s and 80s. We know mediocrity first hand. We saw it last year with Aaron was injured and this team is not too different than those teams. We remember the 90s when the team slowly built up to winning in the playoffs. There were some heart breaking loses to that evil team from the south. Some agonizing games with the other dominate team SF. It felt good when we were finally able to beat them on a consistent basis. Now when we lose to SF 4 straight times it is annoying. The 8 times they won prior to that no longer count.
I am a diehard Packer fan, which is why I come here. Whiny complainers is why I don't come and post every day.
Whiners will always be here and every where. Come anyhow.