Defense Problems or Just A Bad Game?· Page 3

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

14 years ago

The first couple of years he was in Green Bay, people were blinded by the "ZOMG" factor because Atari Bigby, when he is on target, hits like a Mack truck. But highlight-reel hits can only compensate for deficiencies in your fundamentals for so long. After that, the lapses in critical situations just start to pile up.

GoPack1984
Member

14 years ago

#22

I don't think Bigby will be going anywhere. Mike McCarthy has been mentioning in his press conferences that he believes Bigby is playing at a "high level".

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yooperfan
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#23

Things started off poorly, and instead of trusting each other and staying focused on their jobs, everyone was trying to help out everywhere else. You could see the scheme break down, with ILBs abandoning the middle of the field to help a 3rd or 4th corner cover a guy, etc.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

I totally agree with this point of view and was thinking this while watching the game.

In my opinion we need a big upgrade in the backend of the defense.
We ran out of quality pass defenders after Harris went down.
Bigby is a liability as a pass defender, he likes to make the big hit and that is all.
Counting on Blackmon as an upgrade over Bush is an exercise in futility, the kid is just injury prone.
Perhaps Lee or Underwood will show up next year but I'm not overly optimistic,
Then there is the safety issue.

Wade
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#24

Pittsburgh showed there was a major chink in the defensive armor. Warner showed that he's a better quarterback than Roethlisberger and exploited it.

I don't know why there's the chink, whether it's talent, coaching, or execution. But it definitely is one that needs fixing.

Because, IMO, while both Big Ben and Warner are quality quarterbacks, they are not -- despite the fawning of announcers and ESPN know-nothings -- the topmost tier of NFL quarterbacks. And if you've got a chink that the second-tier quarterbacks can look like Top 5 alltime quarterbacks exploiting, you've got a problem.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

PackerTraxx
Senior Member

14 years ago

#25

"Wade" wrote:

Bingo, when a D gets gouged for over 500 yds 2 of it's last 4 games upgrades have to be made. We looked good against bad/so so teams defensively. We did not look very good against decent teams. The Cowpokers being the exception.

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

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bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

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